The Gut Super-Special: Eating Camel Poop, Weird Constipation Causes, Pig Whipworms & More: How To Banish Bloat, Fix Your Microbiome & Reboot Your Gut.

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In the beginning of this episode, I mention “Michael Phelps cupping” and what the research really says about whether cupping does or does not work, and also mention a new study on 20-25% gains in lean muscle gain, strength and power, and this HMB-ATP stack that uses exactly what they used in the study (use 50% discount code BEN50).

When it comes to healing your gut, getting rid of bloat and constipation, changing your gastrointestinal bacteria or any other digestive topic, I consider Dr. Robynne Chutkan to be one of the smartest women on the face of planet.

She is on faculty at Georgetown University and founder of the Digestive Center for Women, and she is author of not one, not two, but three books that focus on her primary philosophy: healing your body from the inside out.

So basically, she really loves talking about poop.

Her latest book, The Microbiome Solution, is a deep dive into how and why some of our modern day living is actually causing more problems than we realized to the tiny microbes that keep us happy and healthy– household cleaners, air conditioning, processed food. In that book, she talks about eating poop, timing your probiotics, getting a dog to lick your face, eating dirt and more.

In her other book, The Bloat Cure, she looks at less of the science and more at the practical nature of our bloated bellies, talking about how bloat isn’t just bad Chinese food, but also things like codeine in cough syrup and dehydration and birth control pills and GMOs.

During today's episode, you'll discover what I learned from reading both these books, and much more, including:

-How Dr. Chutkan can actually “smell” gut issues with her patients…[16:25]

-What it means if your sweat smells funky…[21:00]

-What pig whipworms and hookworms have to do with getting a healthier gut…[24:30]

-Why the Bedouin tribe eats camel feces when they have gut issues…[34:00]

-Why the “poop pills” everyone seems to be talking about don't work…[52:50]

-Which common musculoskeletal imbalance can cause constipation, no matter how healthy you eat…[55:56]

-Why your medications and supplements may be making you constipated, and what you can do about it…[62:30]

-How wine can be either good or bad for your microbiome, depending on when you drink the wine…[67:45]

-The best time of day to take probiotics if you are also taking antibiotics…[69:30]

-Beans cause bloat for lots of people, you'll discover one special ingredient you can add to them to keep this from happening…[72:55]

-And much more…

Resources from this episode:

The Microbiome Solution: A Radical New Way to Heal Your Body from the Inside Out

The Bloat Cure: 101 Natural Solutions for Real and Lasting Relief

3 day “poop panel” to test your gut

Openbiome for fecal transplants

“How To Poop The Right Way” article



Do you have questions, comments or feedback for Dr. Chutkan or me? Leave your thoughts below and one of us will reply!

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21 thoughts on “The Gut Super-Special: Eating Camel Poop, Weird Constipation Causes, Pig Whipworms & More: How To Banish Bloat, Fix Your Microbiome & Reboot Your Gut.

  1. Kyle G. says:

    Dr. Chutkan you mention taking a good probiotic with the correct ratios of bacteria. Is there a particular brand that you use and/or recommend?

    1. Kyle G. says:

      Never mind just read chapter 12 of the book to discover that this is a much more loaded answer than just saying “Brand X”. Best wishes and thanks for the good read

  2. John Agapos says:

    So, it’s obvious that you two were just standing around, talking s***. Pun intended.

    And, as usual, a lot of information. It may take some time to digest it. Pun intended.

    Weak, but intended nonetheless.

    The opportunity for adolescent humor was there, like low-hanging fruit. Somehow, the good doctor, nor Ben made too much of it. I have no idea how they resisted.

    Fortunately, (or not) I have no questions about this material.

  3. Todd says:

    This was a great podcast and I’ll certainly look at reading both of her books in the next few months. She’s interesting, knowledgeable and engaging. Unlike a recent podcast guest who opines on excess fiber (Dr. K) she’s also not a conspiracy theorist and appears to take a moderated approach which is refreshing.

    Thanks for continuing to bring forward all of these amazing podcasts Ben.

  4. Sarah says:

    Hey Ben – What was the name of that emulsified coconut oil you mentioned at the beginning of this episode? Did you post the link and I just missed it?


  5. Craig Hazen says:

    there was an episode on NPR just this morning saying the studies, so far, show the hookworm/whipworm therapies to be ineffective, at best.…

  6. Rob says:

    Hi Ben, have you ever heard of the estrogenic effect of topical use of lavender & tea tree oil? What’s your take on it? I’m quite sure that using tea tree oil topically (already diluted) gave me man boobs/puffy nipple. Any idea how to reverse that (beside stop using it, which I’ve already done)?

  7. Donna says:

    Ben I think you should win some kind of internet award for the best post/podcast titles… but this time you have really outdone yourself. As soon as I can stop laughing I’ll listen to this podcast, it sounds really interesting. REALLY. I love that you talk about things, and interview people about things that most other people don’t.

  8. Grant says:

    What is the protocol you followed for the supplement stack? Just follow the recommendations they suggest or different for before & after??

    1. Follow the exact recommendations that they recommend. That is what I do.

    2. Martin Stehlik says:

      In the Abstract they state HMB-FA (3 g) and ATP (400 mg) – do you take that 20-30mins prior to training with EAA/creatine?


  9. Scott Kolka says:

    Hi Ben,

    Great podcast as usual. On the HMB-ATP stack does that go well with other supplements? I’m not a huge ‘supplementer’, but I do try to follow your advice and take daily creatine, Amino (EAA), fish oil and a multi. If I buy and take HMB-ATP, do I replace the Amino? I take one 1000mg amino usually per day. I do Triathlon so pretty heavy training load.



    1. Yes, it's stacks really well with other supplements including amino acids. And creatine. And fish oil. ;-)

  10. Patrik says:

    Are there a company like The openbiome in Europe?

    Thanks/ Patrik

  11. Androulla says:

    Is there a downloadable podcast to this, please?

    1. Yes – if you have the BG Fitness app or on itunes!

  12. Kayla says:

    I’m wondering what her thoughts of Triphala is, and the effectiveness in easing symptoms of Ucolitis/Crohns disease? I’ve been dealing with Ulcerative Colitis for over 6 years now and got to a point where I thought cured it completely then all of a sudden I get full blown symptoms again and feeling even worse… weak, joint pains, fatigued, emotionless, along with the other unpleasant intestinal side effects. I want to visit her digestive center for women but I live in WA state. Can she recommend any centers near Tri-cities, WA ?

    Appreciate any response,


    1. Hi Kayla, My name is Kerri Affronti, you are welcome to friend me on Facebook. I have had UC for 5 yrs now and I am currently in the UK undergoing FMT’s. Please google them for a definition if you have not heard of these miraculous treatments yet. I am on day 4 of a ten day micro-biome transplant process and after talking to the amazing staff at Taymount Clinic and all the patients here, I am certain this is the best we (humans) have found for treating our gut bacteria. Repopulating lost bacteria colonies, etc. In a healthy, holitistc manner. Unfortunately this procedure is not currently available in the USA although, I and a few other of my colleagues are pushing for it to be in the next few years. But it is available in the UK right now. Check it out. Be Well, Warmly, Kerri

  13. Rich says:

    I don’t know about you butt…I love to poop. I look forward to this episode. :)

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