Ben Greenfield [00:00:00]: My name is Ben Greenfield, and on this episode of the Boundless Life podcast, I told a few people I was gonna do this. They're like, why are you putting a paralytic agent into your penis? So how does this work?

Khanh Nguyen [00:00:11]: Right, so we inject Botox right into like as if we do the P-Shot. So we inject along the shaft into the erectile tissue of the penis. And the P-Shot is using PRP, that's the original Platelet Rich Plasma. Platelet Rich Plasma the natural growth factor from your own body. And that will send signals to make the tissue healthier, more collagen, more microcirculation. And erection is based pretty much the amount of blood flow into the erectile tissue.

Ben Greenfield [00:00:53]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:00:55]: Now, Botox works by relaxing the smooth muscle outside of all the blood vessels. So it just opens the gate blood to flow in. So that just allow more blood flow into the shaft of the tooth. And therefore another side benefit is that when not stimulated like at rest, men also enjoy the size a little bit bigger.

Ben Greenfield [00:01:25]: So increase size and girth even if you don't have an erection.

Khanh Nguyen [00:01:28]: Right.

Ben Greenfield [00:01:29]: Welcome to the Boundless Life with me, your host, Ben Greenfield. I'm a personal trainer, exercise physiologist, and nutritionist. And I'm passionate about helping you discover unparalleled levels of health, fitness, longevity, and beyond. You guys I'm here with, your name is like the one I probably am the most prone to butcher of all names that I've tried for like the past decade on my podcast. Khanh Nguyen.

Khanh Nguyen [00:02:04]: You got it.

Ben Greenfield [00:02:05]: Khanh Nguyen. Perfect. I'm very phonetic, so your name looks way different than it sounds. Khanh Nguyen. I'm just gonna call you Khanh for the podcast. Okay? So first of all, if you're watching right now, all the shownotes are gonna [email protected]/ regen. R E G E N. It has been a crazy last few days and I want to hear about your story, about how you got into this. But before that, tell me like a brief overview of everything that we've done.

Ben Greenfield [00:02:32]: It's Friday today, I walked in on Wednesday. And you have basically packed a lot in these three days, right?

Khanh Nguyen [00:02:39]: So we've been preparing for this and this is like a typical package that we offer for our clients, and a lot of them are from out of town. So day one, what we did was we removed the first liter of your old plasma. Of my plasma, of your plasma. And that is you were young and healthy, but still, there's still a lot of senescent byproducts inflammatory products. So we remove one liter and we replace with just a liter of IV vitamin, just for the whole face, like.

Ben Greenfield [00:03:15]: A Myers cocktail kind of thing. So I was mildly functional on Wednesday.

Khanh Nguyen [00:03:20]: Right. And then followed by the full region face treatment using young plasma. And also we added exosome PRP activated wood laser. And it's called the VSEL stem cell therapy. And then to top off, we did the microneedling using salmon sperm.

Ben Greenfield [00:03:46]: Salmon sperm on my face? We will get into this. I have questions about putting salmon sperm on your face, but we'll come back to that.

Khanh Nguyen [00:03:55]: And then, and then, and then you.

Ben Greenfield [00:03:57]: Did the thing that I'm sure my wife will be very happy about, but that's also a little bit awkward for some people to talk about. But then we moved to my penis.

Khanh Nguyen [00:04:05]: Right. So we moved to the penis. And the same thing, we use the same cocktail of potent regenerative product. Young plasma, Exosomes, B cell stem cells, needles, injections.

Ben Greenfield [00:04:21]: Yes, you guys, it's a thing. And it's not as bad as it sounds, but there are needles involved.

Khanh Nguyen [00:04:26]: Fully numb. Right. So it's not painless, but it's probably one to two max. So we make sure that people are very comfortable. And on top of that, we added a hundred units Botox.

Ben Greenfield [00:04:44]: Botox.

Khanh Nguyen [00:04:45]: And it's called a Botox.

Ben Greenfield [00:04:46]: Yeah. Which we'll also talk about because again, my wife was like, why are you gonna get a paralytic toxic injected into your dick? So we did that. And then, and then came the super interesting part with young plasma, which I'm still. If you're watching the video, I'm on my last bag and the bag literally says on the outside of it, I can read this to you. 18 to 25 year old male donor plasma going into my body right now.

Khanh Nguyen [00:05:17]: So that's part of day two and today. So day number two was to remove the second liter from you. So for your own plasma. And then we put in two liters of this young plasma yesterday. What else did we do yesterday?

Ben Greenfield [00:05:36]: Young frozen plasma.

Khanh Nguyen [00:05:37]: Young frozen, yeah.

Ben Greenfield [00:05:38]: And then we did Shockwave, which was like a treatment on my joints.

Khanh Nguyen [00:05:42]: Yep, we did that. And you, how do you feel?

Ben Greenfield [00:05:47]: I feel like I've done a lot of stuff obviously, but I feel really good. I want to explore in a little more detail what these protocols are because. Because this is like the future of regenerative medicine. I mean, your place is called Austin Regenerative Therapy because it's what you do. But before that, you are obviously not from here. And people have mentioned to me a couple times. You have a very interesting story of how you got into all this, so tell me about that.

Khanh Nguyen [00:06:15]: So just real brief. I'm originally from Vietnam. My dad was a physician.

Ben Greenfield [00:06:21]: Beautiful place, by the way. Did triathlon there. The food was amazing. The culture of the people.

Khanh Nguyen [00:06:27]: Yeah, I want to go back. So I always wanted to become a physician, and I ended up having to escape as a boat person with my older sister. So we were 14 and 15 at the time. And it's kind of ignorant and desperate because it was very risky and unsafe, but I jumped on the boat out of faith. It's a little raft that only fit 20 people. It's supposed to be a big ship, and it turned out not to be. Most people turn around, and the last minute when the anchor was pulled, I just jumped over. I really want to be a doctor, and I want to come to America to follow my dream.

Khanh Nguyen [00:07:15]: So I just jump over my sister, follow. And we just floated in the ocean for seven days, seven nights. No food, no water. Anytime there's a little wave, you hear people praying. But we made it.

Ben Greenfield [00:07:30]: To America?

Khanh Nguyen [00:07:33]: We made it to Malaysia.

Ben Greenfield [00:07:35]: Okay. I was gonna say America on a tiny boat like that would be quite adventurous.

Khanh Nguyen [00:07:41]: And the ocean was like a swimming pool. Otherwise, we would not survive. By the time we hit from the river to the ocean, the only container of water just knocked over. So no food, no water. We ended up using my raincoat as a sail, and then we kind of licked just one lemon that my grandma gave me. So we all share. We lick on that one lemon, and we just. The condensation from the raincoat, that's how we survived.

Ben Greenfield [00:08:12]: How long were you on that boat?

Khanh Nguyen [00:08:16]: Seven days and seven nights. Yeah. 20 people.

Ben Greenfield [00:08:17]: Oh, my goodness. Was the boat, like, you had your raincoat as a sail, but was there a motor or anything? You're just floating wherever the water's gonna take you, plus your raincoat, Right. Wow.

Khanh Nguyen [00:08:28]: Yeah.

Ben Greenfield [00:08:29]: Any navigator? Any person?

Khanh Nguyen [00:08:30]: So there was a person who was. I think he was in the military, so he did know a little bit about navigation.

Ben Greenfield [00:08:37]: Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [00:08:38]: But nothing. I think we just the wind, and just by chance, just luck, faith, and.

Ben Greenfield [00:08:46]: You get to Malaysia.

Khanh Nguyen [00:08:47]: We got to Malaysia, and I'm a very good swimmer, so I was the first one spotted land, and I'm like, okay, there's no wind. We're just, like, hanging around. I got impatient. So, okay, I'm gonna jump in. I'm gonna swim in.

Ben Greenfield [00:09:03]: And you have to already be a little tired from licking a lemon for your water. And no food.

Khanh Nguyen [00:09:09]: So people held me back. And then by the time the Red Cross boat came out, dragged us in, and the minute I landed on the shore, we all collapsed. Like we have to hold on to our pants because there's no food.

Ben Greenfield [00:09:25]: Yeah. The interesting thing is hold on to your pants to keep them up because you lost so much weight.

Khanh Nguyen [00:09:29]: Right, right. And I remember we just drifting off, dreaming about water. No, food is no issues, but water. So then we got to the Philippines. So that's for the refugee camp. I stayed there for six months learning English, learning the way of life in America. And then I got to California because my dad served the US Army as a physician, so I got to come to the US.

Ben Greenfield [00:10:06]: How old were you by the time you.

Khanh Nguyen [00:10:09]: By the time I got here, I was 15. So I started as a sophomore in high school.

Ben Greenfield [00:10:15]: Wow.

Khanh Nguyen [00:10:16]: Yeah.

Ben Greenfield [00:10:17]: Oh, my goodness. Okay, so you get here, you're 15, you start as a sophomore in high school, and then you somehow get into medical school.

Khanh Nguyen [00:10:25]: So I, I study, I work really hard. I even listen to heavy metal music at night so that I can really understand the language. And I joined the swim team.

Ben Greenfield [00:10:39]: You learn English through heavy metal music at night?

Khanh Nguyen [00:10:41]: Yeah, because I feel like if you can.

Ben Greenfield [00:10:43]: That sounds so great for sleep.

Khanh Nguyen [00:10:46]: If you understand heavy metal music, then.

Ben Greenfield [00:10:51]: Then you can understand anything. If you can understand men screaming at the top of their lungs with very loud high pitched guitars in the background. Okay, I see the logic.

Khanh Nguyen [00:11:01]: That was very tough. So I got through high school, got a scholarship to USC, and then ultimately went to medical school. And so dreams do come true. And since then, I felt like my whole life there's a purpose and there's like a second chance. So every day I'm just grateful and really make the best out of it. And I feel lucky that I just know that's my mission in life. Health, health care, taking care of people.

Ben Greenfield [00:11:37]: Where did regenerative therapy come into the scene?

Khanh Nguyen [00:11:40]: Yeah, so I was a critical care hospitalist doctor for many years. And the last five years I was doing night shift at a hot hospital. So I pretty much in charge of the hospital. And of course things happen at night is in Texas.

Ben Greenfield [00:11:59]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:12:00]: And from many nights of not sleeping, I got burnout, got diagnosed with Grave's disease. And then the last.

Ben Greenfield [00:12:10]: Is that like a thyroid.

Khanh Nguyen [00:12:12]: It's a autoimmune condition where my body attacked my own thyroid gland. And. And then one early morning, driving home from my shift, I kind of fell asleep.

Ben Greenfield [00:12:28]: And then luckily, there's no driving a Tesla.

Khanh Nguyen [00:12:32]: I was driving my Tesla.

Ben Greenfield [00:12:33]: Oh, really?

Khanh Nguyen [00:12:34]: Yeah.

Ben Greenfield [00:12:35]: Quite kick in. Yeah, it was supposed to.

Khanh Nguyen [00:12:37]: It didn't have that early Tesla.

Ben Greenfield [00:12:41]: Right, okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:12:42]: And so that was the wake up call. So I'm like, okay, I need to really take a break, take care of my health and learning about thyroid disease, autoimmune disease. I went to see endocrine endocrinologist specialist and didn't really get to the right, the right answer, the right treatment. And so I started to get into looking around, researching to how to really help myself. So that's how it started. And then I just never stopped. I kind of started to retrain and get more training in the dark side and started.

Ben Greenfield [00:13:28]: Did you call it the dark side?

Khanh Nguyen [00:13:29]: Yeah, because I used to believe my dad was trained as a physician in the French system. So in Vietnam, all the Western medicine desk, that's the way to go, right?

Ben Greenfield [00:13:43]: Traditional allopathic medicine.

Khanh Nguyen [00:13:46]: So that was my mentality. And so I used to just, you know, just roll my eyes when people say holistic or. Yeah, anything like that.

Ben Greenfield [00:13:59]: Holistic, alternative.

Khanh Nguyen [00:14:00]: Woo, woo, woo.

Ben Greenfield [00:14:02]: And yet now the regenerative medicine that you practice might still fit into that category, but this is like the hot topic, you know, all the Brian Johnson's and the Dave Asprey, even a lot of big Silicon Valley tech entrepreneurs and billionaires, they're getting into this stuff. So all of a sudden you find yourself at a pretty important nexus, right?

Khanh Nguyen [00:14:26]: And it's just by chance. And again, everything I do is still based on the science behind it. But either you wait long enough for certain therapy to be the gold standard to be approved, or you just base, you just look at the research, at the mechanism behind it. And also the test that I use for myself is that if it makes sense, if it's safe enough for me and my family, then it's good enough.

Ben Greenfield [00:15:04]: Typically I start putting Botox into people's dicks.

Khanh Nguyen [00:15:07]: Right?

Ben Greenfield [00:15:08]: Yeah, exactly. Which we'll get to, by the way. But I think some of the things that you previewed as we were opening up the podcast are very interesting. I would say probably like. And I don't know if you agree with me, the biggest thing we've done since I've been here has been this plasma exchange. And this is something that many people might kind of sort of be familiar with if they saw back to a guy like Brian Johnson, his documentary Don't Die. The idea that he was using, I think his son's young, healthy donor plasma. This is not from my son, by the way.

Ben Greenfield [00:15:41]: I didn't talk him into it, didn't run a biome actually didn't think of that. But this whole idea of fresh, young, frozen plasma.

Khanh Nguyen [00:15:52]: Right.

Ben Greenfield [00:15:53]: I believe, if I recall, the original research was triggered by rejuvenation of a young mouse when they received the plasma from an old mouse. And vice versa, by the way, the young mouse became older when it got the plasma. The old mouse. So tell me about this plasma exchange.

Khanh Nguyen [00:16:09]: Yeah, so I mean we've been fascinated with how to stay young and live forever since the beginning of time. And there's always been a fascination with blood. We just kind of knew that there's something magical about our blood and then it turned out to be through that breakthrough study, I think in the 50s, the Parabiosis Study where they suture, this.

Ben Greenfield [00:16:38]: Was the rose model study with the two mice connected together.

Khanh Nguyen [00:16:42]: It's proven the old mouse, when getting the transfusion from the young blood from the young mouse, become physically younger and also improve cognition, able to run around the maze, even a coat get.

Ben Greenfield [00:17:04]: Yeah, I believe decreased inflammatory markers. I don't know if they tested telomeres, but a general youthfulness effect of the young plasma.

Khanh Nguyen [00:17:15]: That's correct. And we believe that it's from this perfect complex mixture of all the components of. There's like over 10,000 of different proteins, the fibrinogen, different fraction of albumin, immunoglobulin, and then there's 5,000 plus of different kind of peptides. As you know a lot about peptides including the LL37 and the growth differentiating factor. All the growth factors. There's. This is fascinating. Per cc of young blast matter you're getting, there's 1.84 billions of exosomes.

Khanh Nguyen [00:18:05]: So these are. Oh wow. Yes. These are like the messenger tiny vesicle that really send messages and communicate to distance self with like the instruction of what to do a lot of people. Fascinating.

Ben Greenfield [00:18:21]: I think plasma, young plasma exchange is the same as something like blood exchange. But plasma is not the same as blood.

Khanh Nguyen [00:18:28]: Right, Right. So in whole blood there's a mixture of things. Platelet hemoglobin, white cell count. So when we separate, like the machine that we put you through, it will separate out the plasma and then return your blood back to you.

Ben Greenfield [00:18:47]: So the machine I was connected to, the people will see in the video that will go along with this podcast again you go to BenGreenfieldLife.com to see some other videos and photos. But that was pulling blood out of my body via a needle in my arm. And that blood was then somehow having the plasma removed from it and then going back into me.

Khanh Nguyen [00:19:10]: Right.

Ben Greenfield [00:19:10]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:19:11]: So it's like a few cycles, I think we have like about four or five cycles. Each cycle it will take your blood through the machine and the centrifuge, separate out the plasma and that, pour into the collection bowl and then your blood get returned back to you.

Ben Greenfield [00:19:28]: And with the plasma, my old plasma, before I talk about the new plasma that goes into me, do you do anything with that old plasma? Is there any use for it? Trash can. Trash can. So that's just like the old stuff. We're getting rid of that, right? Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [00:19:41]: Right. And so it is known that with age related, just, just the aging process and then environmental toxicity medication, the whole mixture, you're healthy. But still, you know, that's still kind.

Ben Greenfield [00:20:01]: Of like the right. Maybe an 83 year old would want my 43 year old plasma.

Khanh Nguyen [00:20:05]: Right, Right.

Ben Greenfield [00:20:06]: But then I'm assuming, and I'm sure a billion people are wondering this, like with this plasma I'm getting put into my body, you don't just take plasma willy nilly off the street from some random donor and put it into somebody's body. Where does this come from?

Khanh Nguyen [00:20:19]: Right. So this particular. So in general, plasma transfusion has been around for a long time, actually since the 20s, like after World War I.

Ben Greenfield [00:20:32]: That far?

Khanh Nguyen [00:20:33]: Yeah. They used to treat soldiers with shock like in the battlefield.

Ben Greenfield [00:20:38]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:20:39]: And so they like, oh, there's like, there's something very important and that really help with the body healing process. And that in the 40's, I think 1939 is when the FDA approved using plasma transfusion for various conditions. Autoimmune conditions, bleeding disorders, people in shock. So like in my field, critical care, we use that. People with autoimmune diseases, we remove that because there's other antibodies in that. So it's been around for a long time. So the safety of plasma transfusion is well established.

Ben Greenfield [00:21:25]: If I had autoimmune disease and I had a bunch of antibodies that were attacked in my own tissue, like you had Graves, for example. If you were to do plasma exchange and remove those, do you just not have autoimmune disease anymore or is this something that you have to kind of keep doing on a regular basis if you were doing it for something like that?

Khanh Nguyen [00:21:42]: So I think that's one of the way to like going after the root cause. So if you have autoimmune disease, you have these antibodies, for some reason they over, they lose control and they attack their own bodies. It kind of makes sense to remove that. But then a lot of time we use a more combination of modalities so that's to remove. And sometimes we put in plasma with the right message exosomes, stem cell.

Ben Greenfield [00:22:15]: And does somebody just like not have autoimmune issues anymore after that?

Khanh Nguyen [00:22:19]: You know, I. So sometimes you do that and then with autoimmune condition, it's something that is not completely understood, but it's something that under stress your body can kind of flare up again. So that's why sometimes people as needed, they will have another round of removal.

Ben Greenfield [00:22:46]: Well, I think you were telling me off air earlier that you had like some billionaire or something who just felt incredible afterwards and they wanted to do it again. So people will actually do something like a therapeutic plasma exchange more than once in their lifetime, theoretically.

Khanh Nguyen [00:23:04]: Right. And you can do it every six months, every year. And the volume is also something that is flexible. Sometimes people do like the maniac change, meaning remove one liter and then put in one liter. What you had was the full protocol.

Ben Greenfield [00:23:23]: What's the full protocol?

Khanh Nguyen [00:23:24]: Right, so you had two liters removed. So from whole blood, to answer your question from earlier, about 50 to 55% of whole blood is plasma. Okay, so you have about five liters. And then we remove two. So a lot, quite a bit. And then we replace with three liters of young plasma.

Ben Greenfield [00:23:50]: Yeah. Okay, so back to the young plasma. Can I close this, by the way? Let's talk to young plasma. Where does it come from? How do you know? It's like.

Khanh Nguyen [00:23:59]: So in general, the young plasma is collected and is mixed blood type sex. So that's in the hospital for this. We've gone like even more careful. So these are pre qualified college students age 18 to 25 and they have to be pre qualified. And once the plasma is collected, that will get put aside for culture and make sure everything is clear before that get approved to be used by providers like us.

Ben Greenfield [00:24:40]: So pre qualified, they're testing for like viruses, pathogens, bacteria. I'm assuming they look at like Lyme, mold, things like that also.

Khanh Nguyen [00:24:47]: Right. So the typical full panel for like if you would get blood transfusion, same.

Ben Greenfield [00:24:54]: Type of criteria that you would follow before this is going to go back into somebody else's body. These kids get paid. Like is it something that they get compensated?

Khanh Nguyen [00:25:03]: I think they get like a gift certificate.

Ben Greenfield [00:25:04]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:25:05]: Yeah.

Ben Greenfield [00:25:05]: All right.

Khanh Nguyen [00:25:06]: Yeah.

Ben Greenfield [00:25:07]: You know, you hear sometimes about how some people will get like heart transplant and take on the characteristics of the person whose organ they received. Like in the back of my mind I wonder, gosh, like I've gotten 10 liters of some 18 to 25 year old possibly multiple 18 to 25 year old young men's plasma in me. Am I going to just suddenly like have a craving for Doritos or like a certain song all of a sudden that I never liked before?

Khanh Nguyen [00:25:30]: So I, you know, the typical thing that I've heard, the feedback from patients I've worked on is as you experience even that night, just a surge of energy and a sense of wellness and then the mental clarity, that's like the, the most profounding things.

Ben Greenfield [00:25:52]: I left your office last night. Mild histaminergic reaction, which you said was normal. So a little bit of rash, a little hives, a little bit of itching, that went away by five. I played two hours of pickleball, came back to my hotel room, had dinner and was up till about midnight reading before I was finally going, I need to get to sleep. So I literally took an antihistamine to go to sleep. So I was functional today, but energy levels just off the charts. And that was after two liters of young plasma and another liter went in today.

Khanh Nguyen [00:26:20]: Right.

Ben Greenfield [00:26:21]: So I might just have to go, I don't know, just dance the night away or something. But huge amount of energy. But then beyond just energy, you mentioned lower inflammation, removal of antibodies, antibodies, exosomes. So you're probably seeing more stems, more of your own stem cell signaling.

Khanh Nguyen [00:26:41]: Right. And the interesting part is that based on research, when you get the infusion of young plasma into your body, the donated young plasma, it doesn't get old. It's the opposite. It's kind of influenced and it influenced that. It's called chronokines, which is kind of like the messenger for time. And it sends a signal to the rest of the body to kind of like reset the aging clock and its effect kind of systemic.

Ben Greenfield [00:27:17]: Do people notice a difference? I mean, I know we'll get to the facial and stuff that you do, but do people notice like hair, skin, nails, anything like that? Just from the plasma, not the other stuff?

Khanh Nguyen [00:27:25]: Yeah. So from, as I shared with you earlier, that particular patient in his 70s, high stress, very successful, high stress and not taking care of his health. And he's walked in, kind of like older than his age, slumber over and just tired. And after the procedure that weekend, I got a phone call and as I shared with you, he's like, you just need to know I've been up since five in the morning. I've been through multiple business conversations and my brain is on fire.

Ben Greenfield [00:28:05]: He felt like I felt last night. Yeah. So when it comes to the things that this pulls out of your body, Is there any effect on like cholesterol or lipids or anything like that or other parameters people might be concerned about? Like if somebody people go in and do like ozone treatments for their blood, for mold or Lyme or mycotoxins, Is there anything this is pulling out beyond just like the rejuvenation of the young plasma? Anything the old plasma that gets removed.

Khanh Nguyen [00:28:37]: Yeah. So you know, so what's in plasma in general? There's salt, there's mineral, there's lipid protein, hormones, exosomes. So you do get that. And one of the concern that we have to be careful is the clotting factors which is part of the protein. And so that's why like people with clotting disorder or if you are left the note and we have to be.

Ben Greenfield [00:29:06]: Careful because you're removing clotting factors unless you would risk excess bleeding potentially. Right, okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:29:12]: Right. And so when you remove plasma, you have the option of replacing that with IV fluid. We can do that with albumin, which have more oncotic pressure, so it just holds space better and then your body will reproduce more. It's fascinating. So just by removing plasma alone definitely has it's kind of diluting effect and it's helpful.

Ben Greenfield [00:29:42]: So you could theoretically remove plasma and then just like get an IV and then you eventually rebuild your own plasma. Or you could remove plasma and do a full young donor exchange.

Khanh Nguyen [00:29:52]: Right. Which will take the benefit to the next level.

Ben Greenfield [00:29:55]: Right.

Khanh Nguyen [00:29:56]: So now you have the influence all the signaling from the complicated mixture of the plasma from young donors. And it's shown that as we age, your plasma composition kind of changes as well. Just like, just like as we age our hormones less, all the age related process.

Ben Greenfield [00:30:20]: Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [00:30:21]: And so that's when we replace with young plasma. You benefit tremendously from that youth cocktail. And it's kind of like a complex perfect combination of all the signaling agent exosomes from young blood which influence the epigenetic expression of the recipient genes. So that's really, really cool.

Ben Greenfield [00:30:53]: Yeah, that's super interesting. I know you did like a true age genetic analysis.

Khanh Nguyen [00:30:57]: Right. So yeah, thank you for reminding me. Yes. So right now this is part of the golden gift study. So we that's like anecdotal report. When people get young plasma, they feel more energy, faster repair recovery, but there's never been a study. So the golden gift study started in 2022 and I'm part of the co investigator. And now we look at before the test, we check for and you did have that a full panel of blood Work including inflammatory markers.

Khanh Nguyen [00:31:37]: And then we did the biological age to check for the methylation age and also all the age for the separate organs. And then we did a whole bunch of other tests to check for the brain, for the balance, physical performance. And for the six months post procedure, we have the option if people participate in the study, which is optional. Then we repeat, follow up after the.

Ben Greenfield [00:32:12]: Young plasma exchange to see how that affected epigenetics, longevity markers, blood markers, etc. So you're actually getting hard data. It's called the Golden Gift study.

Khanh Nguyen [00:32:20]: Golden Gift study.

Ben Greenfield [00:32:21]: Plasma is golden.

Khanh Nguyen [00:32:23]: Yep. Now I know this and it's only in Texas and It started in 2022.

Ben Greenfield [00:32:29]: Okay, got it. Two things I have besides this, not talked about before on the podcast. Salmon sperm and Botox. You know, I think a lot of people are already aware of the idea of microneedling and facials, you know, getting exosomes or Platelet Rich Plasma in your face. And when you told me about the salmon sperm, this was a totally new thing for me. I thought you were joking, but it sounds like you weren't actually joking.

Khanh Nguyen [00:32:54]: Right. And you actually agree and we apply that on your skin.

Ben Greenfield [00:33:00]: Tell me about this. Like, where are you getting salmon sperm?

Khanh Nguyen [00:33:03]: Yeah. So this is like from aquarium porn.

Ben Greenfield [00:33:07]: Action going on in the back room in the office somewhere over there or what? Tell me the story.

Khanh Nguyen [00:33:12]: It's actually the salmon sperm DNA purification. And.

Ben Greenfield [00:33:21]: Who would have thought of this? Like putting salmon. Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:33:24]: Yes.

Ben Greenfield [00:33:24]: I guess there's a lot of aesthetic techniques in Korean.

Khanh Nguyen [00:33:27]: That's kind of like the capital of aesthetic. People really care about skin and how you look and. Yes, so it's, it's. And that is the known glass skin.

Ben Greenfield [00:33:41]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:33:43]: Procedure where I don't know, if you like, you go to Korea, everyone's walk around with this perfect skin and.

Ben Greenfield [00:33:54]: Because they're all using salmon sperm.

Khanh Nguyen [00:33:56]: No, because they really, they really all about nice skin. So they have like the latest trick and technology and therapies. But salmon sperm is, you know, one of the latest.

Ben Greenfield [00:34:09]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:34:09]: And of course I tried that on my face first and I was just.

Ben Greenfield [00:34:14]: You have to guinea pig that on yourself first.

Khanh Nguyen [00:34:16]: Right. And by the way, I gave myself the O-Shot to check it out too. So I a mirror and gave myself the O-Shot.

Ben Greenfield [00:34:24]: Yeah. Is the O-Shot like Botox into the clitoris instead of the penis?

Khanh Nguyen [00:34:29]: So the O-Shot is like the P-Shot.

Ben Greenfield [00:34:31]: Okay, let's come back to Botox here a little bit. I want to finish this salmon sperm thing.

Khanh Nguyen [00:34:36]: Right.

Ben Greenfield [00:34:36]: So they somehow isolate the DNA from The sperm of the salmon.

Khanh Nguyen [00:34:41]: And then it, it has like the ability to again regenerate more collagen. And you just apply that topically after.

Ben Greenfield [00:34:52]: You do like a little bit of.

Khanh Nguyen [00:34:54]: The microneedling to create tiny channels and then we just let it absorb.

Ben Greenfield [00:34:59]: What do people notice?

Khanh Nguyen [00:35:01]: Glass skin. So your skin is just glowy and refined. Like the little lines and wrinkles, the age spot and such.

Ben Greenfield [00:35:12]: How often do people do this?

Khanh Nguyen [00:35:14]: So you can do that every three months, Every month if you want to. Most of my patient I recommend that once a year you should just hit your hair, your skin and your penis. Vagina.

Ben Greenfield [00:35:31]: This isn't gonna make a dent in like the world's population of salmon. Is that like, do I have to trade off longevity and beauty for not getting a filet of ora king salmon anymore at a restaurant? Or is it sustainable?

Khanh Nguyen [00:35:43]: Yeah, you know I have to look more into that.

Ben Greenfield [00:35:48]: Yeah. Well, I don't know. Well, obviously, you know, males have a pretty infinite amount of sperm based DNA. Females have a limited amount of eggs, so I doubt that we would run out of male salmon sperm. But I don't know, this is interesting. You put it on my penis too?

Khanh Nguyen [00:36:04]: No, no, no.

Ben Greenfield [00:36:05]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:36:05]: No, we didn't.

Ben Greenfield [00:36:07]: All right, so you don't use it there.

Khanh Nguyen [00:36:08]: You do for the.

Ben Greenfield [00:36:10]: Okay. For the skin, but you do Botox. And again, like I mentioned earlier, like I told a few people I was gonna do this, like, why are you putting a paralytic agent into your penis? So how does this work?

Khanh Nguyen [00:36:21]: Right, so we inject Botox right into like as if we do the P-Shot for Botox. It does.

Ben Greenfield [00:36:32]: Some people might not know what you mean when you say P-Shot.

Khanh Nguyen [00:36:34]: Yeah, so P-Shot stands for the priapus shot. Okay. And it's the sex of. It's the God of sex.

Ben Greenfield [00:36:42]: And so it's same, same as priapasm, the very uncomfortable five to eight hour erection that sends some people to the hospital, that Priapasm. Priapus.

Khanh Nguyen [00:36:52]: Right, right, right. And so we inject along the shaft into the erectile tissue of the penis. And the P-Shot is using PRP, that's the original Platelet Rich Plasma. Platelet Rich Plasmama, the natural growth factor from your own body. And that will send signal to make the tissue healthier, more collagen, more microcirculation. And erection is based pretty much the amount of blood flow into the erectile tissue.

Ben Greenfield [00:37:30]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:37:31]: Now Botox works by relaxing the smooth muscle outside of all the blood vessel. So it just like open the gate for blood to flow in.

Ben Greenfield [00:37:42]: So it's not directly vasodilatory. Like something like, you know, the shockwave therapy that people do with that wand, which you also did, by the way, thanks to the numbing lotion that I got, which made it a lot more comfortable. And it's not something like Viagra, which would also cause vasodilation, and it's not even something like PRP, which should help to grow new blood vessels. This is literally almost think of it like a bicep that's contracting and thus restricting blood flow with too long of a contraction or something like that. So it's relaxing to allow for better vasculature.

Khanh Nguyen [00:38:18]: It does relax the smooth muscle, so it's kind of open the blood vessel.

Ben Greenfield [00:38:23]: But if it relaxes it, you'd think that you wouldn't be able to get an erection.

Khanh Nguyen [00:38:28]: It's blood flow.

Ben Greenfield [00:38:29]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:38:30]: So that just allow more blood flow into the shaft of the penis. And therefore, another side benefit is that when not stimulated, like at rest, men also enjoy the size a little bit bigger.

Ben Greenfield [00:38:50]: So increase size and girth even if you don't have an erection.

Khanh Nguyen [00:38:53]: Right. It's just from, like, more relaxing, more blood flow.

Ben Greenfield [00:38:56]: Now, you've been saying muscle. I guess many of us are taught in biology that the penis is a gland, not a muscle. So how does that work?

Khanh Nguyen [00:39:03]: The smooth muscle outside the blood vessel in the penis.

Ben Greenfield [00:39:07]: Okay. All right, got it. So we have muscles. Even though the penis is a gland, there are muscles in the penis, and that's what the bottom.

Khanh Nguyen [00:39:13]: And it's like, tiny. It's like a rich network of microcirculation.

Ben Greenfield [00:39:20]: Okay. So obviously, if you had erectile dysfunction or what's the disease?

Khanh Nguyen [00:39:26]: Peyronie's. Peyronie's disease.

Ben Greenfield [00:39:27]: What is that?

Khanh Nguyen [00:39:28]: So Peyronie's is scarring and is actually most commonly is due to trauma related to sex.

Ben Greenfield [00:39:38]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:39:38]: But any kind of trauma, and they cause scarring. And then the shaft curve. And that, A, it can be very painful, but B, that would make penetration ineffective.

Ben Greenfield [00:39:51]: Yeah. Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:39:52]: And that can be debilitating. And we use a P-Shot to address that along with ED.

Ben Greenfield [00:40:00]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:40:02]: With the addition of additional treatment around the scar tissue.

Ben Greenfield [00:40:06]: Yeah, yeah. But then the Botox with the PRP, plus the shockwave treatment, that all kicks in pretty fast. I mean, I was telling you, and, you know, obviously you guys hear this stuff all the time, so I'm not embarrassed talking about this stuff in your clinic that I was. I was getting dressed for pickleball last night, and I just got a random erection just getting ready for pickleball, which I wasn't that excited about. I mean, I'm excited to play pickleball, but not that excited to play pickleball. So. Yeah, Kicks in super fast.

Khanh Nguyen [00:40:34]: Right, Right. And it's just like Botox. Right. And the important things to realize is that ED, even mild, is an early signs of maybe cardiovascular complications. So I always screen for that. You know, we can treat locally, but. Okay, what's your lipid profile look like? You have high blood pressure and a risk factor, and then that's an opportunity to do screening for stroke, heart attack, because it's kind of like the same process. So ED is kind of like angina for the heart or TIA or mini stroke.

Ben Greenfield [00:41:12]: We've mentioned it a few times, at least. I have the shockwave thing, even though I've done a podcast on that before. Quick reminder for people who may not have heard.

Khanh Nguyen [00:41:21]: Yeah. So I love to combine different modality. So Shockwave by itself is a lone standing therapy for many things. ED, including ED and joint, tendon ligament. The way it works is that it's based on the energy from sound wave to create tiny injuries in the treatment area. And then the body would recognize that as an injury. Like, oh, there's a cut or there's an injury. Let's turn on the cascade of repair and regenerate, and let's go to work.

Khanh Nguyen [00:42:00]: And so I combine, as you experience before joint injection and before ED treatment, before the P-Shot, I do the shockwave to kind of prime the tissue to. To regenerate. Yeah, I love stacking.

Ben Greenfield [00:42:17]: Just like you did a story years ago on Gainswave therapy. Both my wife and I have done it a few times since the shockwave therapy. And back to my wife, the same idea of Botox, PRP. And the P-Shot applies to what you call the O-Shot or the orgasm shot. That's what the O stands for. Orgasm.

Khanh Nguyen [00:42:37]: That's the orgasm shot. And same principle, same idea. And we inject for women. Either we collect PRP or other biologics, and then the area is numb, obviously. And then we're going to inject around the G spot area and also right into the clitoris. And that will create a healthier tissue, more lubricated and improve in sensation and tightness.

Ben Greenfield [00:43:10]: When you say around the G spot area, are you going externally or are you going internally?

Khanh Nguyen [00:43:15]: Internally.

Ben Greenfield [00:43:16]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:43:16]: Yeah.

Ben Greenfield [00:43:17]: Interesting.

Khanh Nguyen [00:43:17]: Yeah.

Ben Greenfield [00:43:18]: And do you do, like, lips or anything like that with the O-Shot?

Khanh Nguyen [00:43:22]: Yes. So it's called the Wings Lift.

Ben Greenfield [00:43:25]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:43:26]: So that's where I. So the O-Shot Is a functional procedure where you improve sexual function. The Wings Lift is just for aesthetic, but I love it because it's instant result and it's natural.

Ben Greenfield [00:43:40]: And is the Wings Lift using Botox or.

Khanh Nguyen [00:43:42]: We use. I use a mixture of PRP and filler. Okay, sometimes, sometimes. But it is a very thin mixture of that. And then we inject on the. On the lips.

Ben Greenfield [00:43:58]: Right, right. So it's like a facelift for the vagina.

Khanh Nguyen [00:44:01]: And it's instant and it's create that youthful volume and it's actually make the tissue healthier.

Ben Greenfield [00:44:09]: Interesting.

Khanh Nguyen [00:44:12]: Very natural, very quick. And you see the result.

Ben Greenfield [00:44:15]: Yeah. Where do you learn about this stuff? Do you guys have like special secret Batman cave conferences that regenerative medicine docs go to to hear what's coming down the pipeline? Because some of this stuff I'm kind of connected to the industry, but a lot of this is new to.

Khanh Nguyen [00:44:29]: So Dr. Charles Runels is the inventor of the P-Shot and then old shot, the vampire facelift, the wings with and the breast lift. So I got trained under him and I got certified. And it's actually a very active group that we just keep up with all the latest research and communication. For example, I had a very severe case of Peyronie's from a young patient and I added different peptides and great results. So we share that with the community.

Ben Greenfield [00:45:09]: So Charles Runels is his name. Does he have like a blog or a website or podcast, stuff like that?

Khanh Nguyen [00:45:17]: Yes, he's very well known.

Ben Greenfield [00:45:19]: What about some of these conferences like American Academy of Anti Aging Medicine. RAADFest is the one I hear about. Do you go to these places?

Khanh Nguyen [00:45:29]: I do. I presented at Radfest and I do participate in A4M actually I got certified for my anti aging there at A4M. And I also am very active with the SSRP which is the organization for peptide therapy.

Ben Greenfield [00:45:50]: Now you have some kind of a weird peptide thing you were telling me about. This is different than what I've heard of before. Neo.

Khanh Nguyen [00:45:57]: Right. So that is. So the peptides that we all know is kind of like off the shelf. And they are very effective. They're very effective, very safe.

Ben Greenfield [00:46:08]: But if you get them from the right source.

Khanh Nguyen [00:46:10]: It's very important. Very important. And then knowing the sequence and when to use what is crucial. But then the next level is the personalized tailored peptide. And this is from Neo7 Bioscience. For this I actually collect your blood and urine and then that will get sent to the company to get analyzed using a machine learning platform. And it's fascinating, because they really have like an extensive analysis of your blood sample and urine sample. And then the machine will kind of point out all the faulty pathways and then have the ranking to design the peptides to actually counteract and fix those abnormalities.

Ben Greenfield [00:47:09]: Give me an example.

Khanh Nguyen [00:47:11]: For example, there's like eight hormones of aging that they are targeting. The mitochondria, health microbiome, the DNA stability and so forth. And then everyone is different. For example, my patient with als, the report, it just lit up all the pathway, that neural related pathway that's all abnormal and, you know, like just normal aging that you're going to see like telomere length attrition or inflammation or DNA instability. So just depending on the severity, they will create the peptide just for that individual. So NF1. And it's a program that they would, once they have the design, they will send that off to a compound pharmacy to create the peptides, and that would last about six to nine months.

Ben Greenfield [00:48:18]: So these would not be peptides that are named, that you can read about. They're synthesizing their own short chains of amino acids to go to the areas that blood in your intestine have identified, need them. And then I'm assuming somebody needs to go through a doctor to do something like this. And what's it called again?

Khanh Nguyen [00:48:35]: Neo7 Bioscience.

Ben Greenfield [00:48:38]: Neo7 Bioscience. Okay. And you just come in, you do the test, and then these like injectable peptides that you get.

Khanh Nguyen [00:48:45]: Yeah. So you're gonna get 120 vials and then you're gonna keep them in the freezer.

Ben Greenfield [00:48:50]: Yeah. And.

Khanh Nguyen [00:48:52]: And then typically it's gonna be twice a week injection. And then in between, just depending on the individual, we also add IV or nasal nab or sub Q. And we have the option of using exosome for better delivery as well. So we have different options. And then on top of that, we sometimes use the augmented peptide, like the peptide that you know, but they augment it to help out with its stacking.

Ben Greenfield [00:49:23]: Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [00:49:24]: So a lot of time we use SS31 Klotho. Those are the common things. And then we use sometimes ribbon lysine. Just depends on what we want to address.

Ben Greenfield [00:49:41]: Yeah, yeah. So is there anything based on how much you're getting around and seeing the whole field of regenerative therapy coming down the pipeline that you've got your eye on, that you might add to the clinic or that you're excited about, or that you think shows a lot of future promise?

Khanh Nguyen [00:50:01]: So I'm always on the lookout for the latest with enough understanding and science based. And right now, honestly, the Neo7 Bioscience and Young Plasma Therapy, it's kind of like. Yeah, as far as now that's kind of like the cutting edge gene therapy. Hopefully just we're on the verge of.

Ben Greenfield [00:50:31]: I've done gene. I did follow statin gene therapy and had incredible results for muscle gain. Yeah. It's not legal in the US yet, but the idea being would turn on or turn off certain genetic pathways. You know, in this case follow statin for muscle gain. Klotho for cognition. I think they're working on one for luteinizing hormone for natural testosterone enhancement. That's a cool field.

Ben Greenfield [00:50:52]: I plan on at some point doing a dedicated podcast just devoted to gene therapy. I did it with Dr. Adeel Khan down in Cabo. But yeah, still kind of few and far between. Hard to come by. Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [00:51:02]: Here. And I'm hopeful that you know, we just paving wave and then waiting for that hockey stick effect. And with like quantum physics and machine learning, things just gonna happen fast. So I keep on telling people, my sons included, just stay safe, just hang around.

Ben Greenfield [00:51:28]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Hang around long enough, you might be that person. List of 150. Is it easier from a legislation standpoint in Texas to practice like this? It seems like there's a lot of clinics like this in Texas.

Khanh Nguyen [00:51:41]: So, for Young plasma, it's only in Texas as of now.

Ben Greenfield [00:51:45]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:51:45]: And I'm part of the Golden Gift study. I'm a co-investigator.

Ben Greenfield [00:51:50]: Oh, so you can only do young plasma in Texas, like in the US I didn't know that.

Khanh Nguyen [00:51:54]: Right.

Ben Greenfield [00:51:54]: Because there are places I know of, like in California, for example, that advertise that they do tpe.

Khanh Nguyen [00:52:00]: Right. So TPE in general is removing plasma and then when you exchange, you exchange, you replace with albumin. Typically TPE means that, but you're replacing.

Ben Greenfield [00:52:12]: With albumin not with full young donor plasma, which you could only do in the state of Texas as of now. Interesting. Okay. So hopefully it'll be, I think a lot of people. I'm glad we cleared that up. A lot of people think this is the same as therapeutic plasma exchange.

Khanh Nguyen [00:52:26]: It's kind of under the same umbrella, but it's more specific to what you exchange with. So young plasma exchange is removing old plasma and replace it with change it with young plasma.

Ben Greenfield [00:52:39]: And I'm assuming it would be prudent. We haven't talked about this, so I might as well ask you while we're recording that, after I've done a protocol like this, like for example, I've been careful not to drink alcohol the past few days to get good sleep, to take care of my body. You know, going outside and grounding and earthing and doing all the healthy things. I'm assuming chylen a stem cell treatment. The more I can do to be really healthy after this, including maybe even avoiding alcohol, things like that, that would be alcohol.

Khanh Nguyen [00:53:08]: As far as medication, you can go back.

Ben Greenfield [00:53:10]: Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [00:53:10]: But even just if you want the benefit to sustain longer and to make the best out of it again, it's like the whole whole person approach. You know, eat healthy. It's boring but important. Control or manage.

Ben Greenfield [00:53:28]: Go to bed is a decent time. Which I have to do now because you gave me a red light therapy thing that I have to wear around my penis. So I've been putting. Getting into bed 20 minutes early so I can wrap that thing around. And yeah, that's a first for me doing red light.

Khanh Nguyen [00:53:40]: So that's a pretty good stack, right?

Ben Greenfield [00:53:41]: Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [00:53:42]: The shockwave, the injection, the Botox, we did a lot.

Ben Greenfield [00:53:47]: Yeah. I feel incredible.

Khanh Nguyen [00:53:48]: Yeah. Yeah.

Ben Greenfield [00:53:50]: Despite being up till like 1am last night bouncing off the walls, I feel incredible.

Khanh Nguyen [00:53:54]: Yeah.

Ben Greenfield [00:53:55]: So the name of your clinic is Austin Regenerative Therapy.

Khanh Nguyen [00:53:59]: You got it.

Ben Greenfield [00:53:59]: I'll link to all that. If you're watching or listening to this, go to BenGreenfieldLife.com/regen I assume if people wanted to try something like this, they can just call and you screen them. And I know you had found my blood type and there's some other things that you need to do leading up so you get the right type of plasma. BenGreenfieldLife.com/regen though and then people can call you and schedule if they want to do something like this themselves.

Khanh Nguyen [00:54:24]: Yes.

Ben Greenfield [00:54:25]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:54:25]: Yeah.

Ben Greenfield [00:54:26]: All right. Well, I tried it. So far it feels pretty good. And yes, the Botox did not paralyze me. So I'm happy about that. I'll fly home tomorrow to see my wife. Hopefully she's happy too.

Ben Greenfield [00:54:36]: Khanh, thank you so much.

Khanh Nguyen [00:54:37]: Yeah, thank you so much. I'm excited. I love what I do and it's great to have a chance to share.

Ben Greenfield [00:54:44]: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of people.

Khanh Nguyen [00:54:46]: I can't wait to hear you gonna.

Ben Greenfield [00:54:47]: Be interested in doing this. So. Yeah. So check her out, folks. BenGreenfieldLife.com/ regen I'm at Austin Regenerative Therapy. Thanks for watching.

Khanh Nguyen [00:54:59]: Okay, Ben Greenfield is here. So this is day one of the three day session of Yong last night change. So we're gonna remove 1 liter of plasma and just replace with a liter of I.V. fluid.

Ben Greenfield [00:55:15]: Oh, I thought you were gonna replace it with like a liter of like liquid hot magma or something cool like that. So it could be an Avenger if you have that. I want some wolverine claws while we're doing this too, actually. Always ready for the needle, bro.

Khanh Nguyen [00:55:35]: He's looking right at it. And you didn't feel much, right?

Ben Greenfield [00:55:38]: No.

Khanh Nguyen [00:55:38]: Yep.

Ben Greenfield [00:55:43]: Okie dokie.

Khanh Nguyen [00:55:48]: So now the machine started and you can see this is gonna take his blood through the machine and it's gonna separate out the plasma and then it's gonna be collected in this bottle right here. We're gonna show it to you, Ben. And then we put in the second IV line for some IV fluid. Your plasma is looking good.

Ben Greenfield [00:56:21]: I gotta call my wife to show her what this plasma looks like. But let's see. Let's see if she's here so we can show her.

Khanh Nguyen [00:56:30]: Pick up the phone.

Ben Greenfield [00:56:34]: Busy taking care of the goats.

Khanh Nguyen [00:56:36]: Not so fun.

Ben Greenfield [00:56:38]: Yeah, they're pretty cute.

Khanh Nguyen [00:56:39]: Oh my God. We had.

Ben Greenfield [00:56:41]: We had to take them into the sauna right after this cuz they were super cold. So they hung out in the sauna for a few hours. Yeah, I think I. I mentioned on my intake form, but even though my body's pretty good, the only two orthopedic issues I have is I have. I'm sure they're related to each other. I have some left toe pain and some left ski pain.

Khanh Nguyen [00:56:59]: So we'll do that. Today we're going to do the face and the piece.

Ben Greenfield [00:57:03]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [00:57:04]: Tomorrow whenever you do the joint injection.

Ben Greenfield [00:57:06]: Okay. After the infusion, do do the face and penis first. Those besides the brain are the two most important parts of my body. So. Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [00:57:13]: Yeah.

Ben Greenfield [00:57:13]: Great.

Khanh Nguyen [00:57:16]: So this is the region facelift. We use young plasma, B cell, stem cell exosome and the salmon throne to top it off.

Ben Greenfield [00:57:41]: Now this isn't the type of thing that us men up in Idaho are know what they're doing.

Khanh Nguyen [00:57:47]: Are you gonna set the trend?

Ben Greenfield [00:57:48]: I guess so. Like we almost try to make ourselves uglier.

Khanh Nguyen [00:57:52]: Really? No.

Ben Greenfield [00:57:53]: It'll look hard to kill, but I'm doing this.

Khanh Nguyen [00:57:59]: You doing okay?

Ben Greenfield [00:58:00]: Oh yeah, I'm fine. No worse than like a baby bumblebee sting. Barely feel it.

Khanh Nguyen [00:58:08]: That's the go hitting your hairline even though you have a full head of hair. There. Almost done. So this going to feel like a massage that the micro needle tr. So it's not that.

Ben Greenfield [00:59:11]: Get it? That was easy. All right, time for day two. Day two at awesome regenerative medicine. Yesterday I got my face injected, my penis injected and today, back to longevity young plasma infusion. And we'll see what other tricks they have up their sleeve and what they have in store. Yo, yo, what's up?

Khanh Nguyen [00:59:54]: Okay, so today's day number two. Yesterday we did the first liter of removal of your old plasma. It didn't look bad, actually.

Ben Greenfield [01:00:03]: Good.

Khanh Nguyen [01:00:04]: But you did feel good afterwards and was able to play pickleball.

Ben Greenfield [01:00:08]: Got a couple hours of pickleball in. Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [01:00:11]: And we also did the whole high end face treatment. Yeah. And then you. You did some red light treatment on the penis.

Ben Greenfield [01:00:21]: Yep. Did the red light on the penis last night. And. Awesome. I mean, it felt. Didn't hurt or anything.

Khanh Nguyen [01:00:26]: Yeah. So today we're gonna remove the second liter.

Ben Greenfield [01:00:30]: Okay.

Khanh Nguyen [01:00:31]: So after we remove the second liter today, we're gonna put in two liters.

Ben Greenfield [01:00:35]: Oh, good. So I don't leave today.

Khanh Nguyen [01:00:37]: Exactly. So you're gonna feel surge. Cool.

Ben Greenfield [01:00:42]: And then there's like another. Is there another leader goes in tomorrow?

Khanh Nguyen [01:00:44]: Tomorrow.

Ben Greenfield [01:00:45]: Oh, wow.

Khanh Nguyen [01:00:46]: So that's the full.

Ben Greenfield [01:00:46]: Amazing.

Khanh Nguyen [01:00:47]: That's. I'm giving you like the full protocol. Yeah. And it seems like the more volume people get, the better benefit.

Ben Greenfield [01:00:56]: Okay, yeah. Cool. Totally not opposed to hitting a little shock wave on this guy if we want to.

Khanh Nguyen [01:01:00]: Yeah, yeah.

Ben Greenfield [01:01:01]: Sweet.

Khanh Nguyen [01:01:01]: Yep. So that's the plan. Okay, so we almost done with day two. We're down to the last.

Ben Greenfield [01:01:40]: Last two of ten bags of plasma.

Khanh Nguyen [01:01:42]: Ten.

Ben Greenfield [01:01:43]: Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [01:01:43]: And then tomorrow we're gonna do leaders.

Ben Greenfield [01:01:45]: Yep. I feel good. Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [01:01:49]: And then we hit the shoulder a little bit.

Ben Greenfield [01:01:51]: Yep. Little shockwave on the shoulder.

Khanh Nguyen [01:01:54]: One more to go. The last. The third liter. And then we're gonna do the. The joint injection.

Ben Greenfield [01:02:00]: Amazing.

Khanh Nguyen [01:02:01]: With young plasma. Hi. So last day, day three. So did you play pickleball yesterday?

Ben Greenfield [01:02:11]: Yeah, I actually had like too much energy. I was up till like almost 1am to just like bouncing off the walls. Yeah. Like in a good way. Just like too much energy.

Khanh Nguyen [01:02:22]: So much of energy.

Ben Greenfield [01:02:23]: Yeah. And yeah, I left here for like two hours to pickleball. I was. It was weird. I was like itching. Like my body was just getting used to everything. So until like maybe five when I think like three, I was like itching and I had some hives and those went away. Yeah, by the time I was like playing last night, those went away.

Ben Greenfield [01:02:39]: And then I left pickleball and I was just like, dude, like I do like go clubbing or something. Like a dance.

Khanh Nguyen [01:02:49]: People like stay up until like two or get up instead.

Ben Greenfield [01:02:52]: Just went home and. Or took back to my hotel and I. I read a whole bunch and got some work done. Eventually I fell asleep.

Khanh Nguyen [01:02:59]: That's awesome.

Ben Greenfield [01:03:00]: Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [01:03:00]: And the skin. Awesome.

Ben Greenfield [01:03:03]: Shoulders a little bit. Yeah. You fixed it yesterday and then I just messed it up and it could.

Khanh Nguyen [01:03:07]: Work it but the infusion definitely would help.

Ben Greenfield [01:03:11]: Yeah.

Khanh Nguyen [01:03:11]: Cool.

Ben Greenfield [01:03:12]: Got it like that Shock wave works fine. Yeah. Cool.

Khanh Nguyen [01:03:15]: Awesome. So let's, let's go in here.

Ben Greenfield [01:04:19]: Yo yo. Yeah, it was good. Y'all knows her stuff. Yeah. Between that and all the other stuff I'm feeling. I feel like a new man.

Khanh Nguyen [01:04:27]: Thank you so much.

Ben Greenfield [01:04:28]: Cool. Thank you. Thanks for having me. This is an incredible place and incredible experience. So thanks.

Khanh Nguyen [01:04:35]: So see you next time.

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