April 11, 2020
On my recent whirlwind media and Boundless book tour of India, I hosted, along with my friends Jag Chima and Kris Gethin, a massive biohacking Q&A and panel in Mumbai, directly after the one we recorded in New Delhi, which you can listen to here (you may also be interested in our private hotel room chat here). We covered an enormously wide range of topics, including:
- The harmony between ancestral living and modern science…
- How to optimize gut health…
- Does moving around help digestion…
- 5G and EMF hazards from mobile phones and “smart” technology…
- Why it's so difficult to thrive on a plant-based diet…
- How to slow down, or stop altogether, the aging process…
- How Ben can have a biological age of 9 years old…
- The right approach to aesthetics when it comes to biohacking…
- And much more!
Jag Chima, born in England, is an entrepreneur, investor, visionary, health and fitness enthusiast, and philanthropist with business interests that include real estate, construction, finance, lifestyle, and health and fitness. Jag is the founder of The London Group, a diversified conglomerate with extensive operations in the UK, India, and other parts of the world. The London Group is comprised of companies in property consultancy, property development, estate agents, lifestyle brands, fitness education, talent management, and health clubs.
Jag has carved a niche for himself as a passionate and astute professional, with experience that started in 1998. He has also been featured on many media platforms including BBC News Asia, BBC Asian Network, and MATV. He is a sought after speaker and strategic advisor on business affairs and believes in facing fears and taking on challenges for growth and personal development. Jag recently completed a triathlon and also a 1450 km bicycle ride from Delhi to Mumbai. He is a proud supporter of The Unique Home for Girls in Jalandhar India, a home for unwanted, abandoned girls in Punjab, India.
Originally from Wales, Kris Gethin has established himself as one of the most versatile fitness entrepreneurs in the industry. Before founding Kaged Muscle, Kris competed as a lifetime natural pro bodybuilder, placing as high as second place in the Natural World Championships. As a personal trainer, his clients have included Bollywood celebrities, billionaire businessmen, and champion athletes. In between training clients, he has certified more than 800 personal trainers. Somehow, this tireless innovator found time to co-found a health club franchise called Kris Gethin Gyms. He has shared his extensive knowledge through books, newsletters, videos, and podcasts.
Now, he’s moved into the nutrition sector with Kaged Muscle, a company dedicated to creating cutting-edge, ultra-premium sports nutrition supplements for athletes of all types. All of Kris’ pursuits are consistent with his mission of helping others reach their health and fitness goals.
In this episode you'll discover:
-What it means to be “boundless”…8:41
- We just want more energy to accomplish our goals, purpose, etc.
- We go about our lives with less energy than we're capable of; it's more than just exercise and diet
- Oft-neglected variables: cognitive performance, digestion, blood-brain barrier, spiritual disciplines, etc.
- “Read the book, but don't become a student of learning. Put it into action.”
- Book: Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
- Mitigating hazards of the Information Age:
- Don't feel pressure to read the entire book
- Have one shelf of books you'll read again and again
- Readwise
- How to get your hands on Boundless:
-How to optimize gut health…16:30
- The gut is where most of the bacteria reside and thrive
- Postbiotics contribute to our energy levels
- Two branches of the nervous system: Enteric and Central
- Enteric resides within the gut; fed and fueled by the vagus nerve
- Neglect of the gut will affect our mental function, sleep, neurotransmitter, mood, etc.
- Functional medicine has it right: go to the gut first in determining the issue
- Other deleterious variables affecting the gut:
- Processed food
- Pollution
- Sources of the food we eat
- Inactivity
- Sugar intake
- Kris had mold toxicity in the brain; the functional medicine doc went straight to the gut
-The harmony between ancestral living and modern science…21:04
- The two don't need to be mutually exclusive
- You can overdo anything
- Many biohackers rely too much on tech that they become disconnected with nature
- Eating “ancestral” foods (ghee, blueberries, etc.) to excess
- Modern science has spawned a rediscovery of ancestral living
- “Retirement” is a foreign concept in Blue Zones around the world
- Always look for opportunities to move, ground with the earth, etc.
- Don't let the weather be an excuse for getting outside
- Discomfort, suffering encourages other disciplines in our lives
- Keep your smart phone on airplane mode whenever possible
- Book: Blue Zones by Dan Buettner
- BioBalance mat
- Earth Runners sandals
-How moving around helps digestion…31:20
- Low-level physical activity throughout the day
- Rest without being in a seated position all day
- Why recline or rest while eating:
- Allows you to be present while eating
- Consuming food in a stressed state may negate any nutritional benefits of it
- Choose to fast if you don't have time to eat in a relaxed state
- Bone density decrease that correlates with a shift from squatting to sitting position
-5G and EMF hazards from mobile phones and “smart” technology…36:00
- Three issues to be aware of:
- Our bodies operate on an electrical chemical balance
- Radiation and its effects on DNA and protein damage
- Upregulate inflammation in the body
- Podcast with Dr. Mercola on EMF and 5G
- Book: EMF*d by Dr. Mercola
- Book: The Non-Tinfoil Guide to EMFs by Nick Pineault
- Book: Zapped by Ann Louise Gittleman
- Book: Healing is Voltage by Jerry Tennant
- Book: The Body Electric by Robert Becker
- Schumann resonance generating mat
- Magnesium supplements offset calcium deficiencies as a result of 5G and EMF
- NAD can offset protein damage
- Fasting/caloric restriction
- NAD supplementation
- You want a high level of sirtuins: cacao, red wine, blueberries, dark purple and red foods
- Use supplements that increase blood levels of ketones (ketone esters)
- Ground with the earth as much as possible
- PEMF mat in the bed or on the couch
- EMF scrambler for a smartphone (code: BEN)
- Brian Hoyer, building biologist
- Testosterone levels have declined
- EMF blocking underwear (use code: BEN for a 20% discount – limited to one per email address)
- A disciplined spiritual life can help mitigate the psychological effects of exposure to EMFs (don't live in fear)
-Why it's so difficult to thrive on a plant-based diet…56:37
- You need to know how to do it; know which holes need to be filled in
- Plants have built-in defense mechanisms; these can be problematic for the gut
- Smart plant-based diets:
- Quinoa rinsed and sprouted can unlock more amino acids
- Pre-digested gluten
- Hummus from chickpeas rinsed and soaked; pressure cooked
- Soak and sprout time for common seeds, nuts, beans and grain
- Many plant-based advocates are ignorant or unwilling to go through the trouble
- Ethically-raised meat can supply the amino acids and nutrients you need
- The ideal diet will vary based on your genetics, but is omnivorous
- Be aware of the source:
- Ethical treatment of animals
- How is the land treated?
- Some endurance athletes thrive on a plant-based diet, but is their health optimized?
- Beware of documentaries on Netflix that preach a plant-based diet
- Diets can be used as a tool to be used for a specific purpose, but it may not be the ideal diet forever
-Biohacking your workout…1:08:45
- Nasal breathing
- Encourages diaphragmatic breathing
- Improves facial symmetry
- Use the mouth only during the hardest part of the workout
- Blood flow restriction training
- Heart rate variability (HRV) measurement
- HRV is the time between beats of the heart
- Indicative of the health of the vagus nerve
- Neglecting HRV can be very detrimental
- High HRV is good; indicative of good overall health
- Oura Ring
-How to slow down, or stop altogether, the aging process…1:18:25
- Glycemic variability
- Dexcom blood glucose monitor
- Cold thermogenesis
- Bitter melon extract, ceylon cinnamon, apple cider vinegar
- Levels of inflammation, particularly chronic inflammation
- Stress
- Non-native EMF
- Vegetable oil is a fast track to chronic inflammation
- Spiritual disciplines
- Gratitude, being present
- Being in a happier place
- Stem cell therapy
- Be aware of sugar intake
- Shortening workouts
-How Ben can have a biological age of 9 years old…1:26:43
- Telomere analysis (Spectra Cell)
- Methylation measurements may be more precise in the future
- Exosomes
- PEMF therapy
- Hyperbaric oxygen therapy
- Peptides
- Epitalon
- Humanin
- MOTS-C
- Social workouts
-The right approach to aesthetics when it comes to biohacking…1:33:38
- Alitura derma roller, clay mask, and moisturizer use code GREENFIELD for a 20% discount (mix w/ apple cider vinegar or red wine)
- JOOVV Red light therapy
- Kion Serum
- GHK-Cu peptides
- Collagen and essential amino acids
- Think Dirty app
- Dry skin brushing
- Dirt oil pulling mouthwash
- Tongue scraper
- Only work with a holistic dentist
- Xylitol gum in the morning
- Don't shame others or yourself based on appearance
-Biohacks to help with a polluted environment…1:47:26
- Plants in the home can help purify the air
- N95 face mask
- Taurine
- Full Spectrum antioxidant blends
- Glutathione
- N-Acetylcysteine
- GlutaStat nasal spray in a nebulizer mask
- Blue light blocking glasses
-Hacks to optimize health while traveling…1:53:50
- Oil of oregano
- Beekeepers Naturals bee propolis spray (use code BEN for a 15% discount)
- Hydrogen tablets (use code GREENFIELD for a 10% discount)
- EMF blocking underwear
- KTC EMF-blocking clothing
- Fasting can reduce inflammation
- Spirulina and Chlorella (use code BEN for a 10% discount)
- Air squats on the plane
- Power naps
- Mindfold sleep mask
- Reishi mushroom (use code BENGREENFIELD for a 15% discount)
- NuCalm (discount applied at checkout, 65% off the first month of any new monthly subscription)
- DefenderShield blanket
- BLUblox Remedy sleep mask
-Herbs for biohacking…2:02:41
- Turmeric is used in Kion Flex
- Black pepper, turmeric, ghee with hot coconut milk
- Astragalus
- Ashwagandha
- Chaga, Turkey Tail, and Reishi mushroom (use code BENGREENFIELD for a 15% discount)
- Bitter melon extract
- Berberine
- TianChi Chinese traditional herbs
-What wearable technologies to use, and which to avoid…2:08:40
- It must be able to disable bluetooth, wifi, put in airplane mode
- Apollo wearable band (15% discount automatically applied at checkout)
- Oura Ring
- Molekule air filter (code: BEN)
- Don't look at your phone first thing in the morning!
- Keep phone out of the bedroom
-Ben and Kris' top 5 biohacks…2:18:40
- Ben:
- Photobiomodulation
- Grounding
- Hyperthermia
- Clearlight infrared sauna (use code BEN for $450 off)
- Cryotherapy and cold thermogenesis
- Cold showers
- Swim in a cold lake, river, etc.
- Trace minerals
- Quinton (use code GREENFIELD10 for a 10% discount)
- Celtic sea salt
- Kris:
- Hot and cold thermogenesis
- Stimulating the vagus nerve
- Promotes emotional stability
- Sun exposure/light therapy
- Meditation and gratitude
- PEMF
- Grounding/earthing
- Self-quantification
- Hot and cold thermogenesis
-Audience Q&A…2:31:24
- How to obtain BPC-157 in India
- Why Ben recommends sauna over steam
- How to decide which supplements are appropriate for you
- Nutreval by Genova Diagnostics
- Creatine
- Magnesium
- Multi-vitamin that's chelated to minerals
- Omega 3 fatty acids
- Is there benefit to doing hot before cold thermogenesis, and vice versa
- What do prebiotics and probiotics have to do with gut health
- Determining the proper diet for you
Click here for the full written transcript of this podcast episode.
Resources from this episode:
– Books:
- Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
- Boundless by Ben Greenfield
- Blue Zones by Dan Buettner
- EMF*d by Dr. Mercola
- The Non-Tinfoil Guide to EMFs by Nick Pineault
- Zapped by Ann Louise Gittleman
- Healing is Voltage by Jerry Tennant
- The Body Electric by Robert Becker
– Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast Episodes:
- Dr. Mercola: The Shocking Truth About You Getting “EMF’D”: 5G, Wi-Fi & Cell Phones – Hidden Harms & How To Protect Yourself
- Brian Hoyer: The Intriguing Science Of Building Biology (Along With A Complete Analysis & Surprising Results From Ben Greenfield’s So-Called “Biohacked Home”)
- Clint Ober: My New #1 Hack For Zapping Inflammation, Increasing Deep Sleep & Recovering Faster – Earthing (The Most Important Health Discovery Ever?)
- David Rabin: A Whole New Way To Deal With Stress, Trauma & PTSD In Just Seconds: The First Clinically Validated Wearable That Helps You De-Stress, Focus, Sleep, Stay Energized & Remain Calm.
– Supplements:
- Magnesium
- Ketone Esters
- Trace minerals
- Creatine
- Berberine
- TianChi Chinese adaptogenic herbs
- Collagen
- Kion Aminos
- Taurine
- Full Spectrum antioxidant blends
- Glutathione (use code GREENFIELD10 for a 10% discount)
- N-Acetylcysteine (NAC)
- GlutaStat nasal spray (use code BEN for a 5% discount)
- Kion Oil of Oregano
- Hydrogen tablets (use code GREENFIELD for a 10% discount)
- Spirulina and Chlorella tablets (use code BEN for a 10% discount)
- Kion Flex
- Astragalus
- Ashwagandha
- Chaga, Turkey Tail, and Reishi Mushrooms (use code BENGREENFIELD for a 15% discount)
- Bitter melon extract
- Quinton
– Other Resources:
- Physique Global
- Readwise
- BioBalance mat
- Earth Runners sandals (use code BENG10 for 10% off)
- Earthing mat and earthing bed sheets
- PEMF mat
- Brian Hoyer, building biologist
- Lambs EMF blocking underwear (use code BEN for a 20% discount – limited to one per email address)
- Schumann resonance generating mat
- EMF scrambler for a smartphone (code: BEN)
- Oura Ring
- International Peptides Society
- Alitura Derma roller, Clay Mask, and Moisturizer (use code GREENFIELD for a 20% discount)
- JOOVV (use code BEN for a free gift at checkout)
- Kion Serum
- Think Dirty app
- Dry skin brushing
- The Dirt oil pulling mouthwash
- Tongue scraper
- Xylitol gum
- N95 face mask
- RA Optics Blue light blocking glasses
- Beekeepers Naturals bee propolis spray (use code BEN for a 15% discount)
- KTC EMF blocking clothing
- Mindfold sleep mask
- NuCalm (discount applied at checkout, 65% off the first month of any new monthly subscription)
- Defender Shield blanket
- BLUblox Remedy mask
- Apollo wearable band (15% discount automatically applied at checkout)
- Molekule air filter
- Vielight
- Clearlight infrared sauna
- Celtic sea salt
- Flex Pulse
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Not really a valid comparison. As you mentioned temp and herbs/spices reduce risk of HCAs and PAHs. You can get the same formation on a stove at high temp. Yep, if you walk around a city you’re breathing in toxic exhaust. How much exposure do you have to BBQ smoke?
If you are like most people, you have exposure to Wifi nearly 24/7. Vastly different exposure levels.
You can either comb through the hundreds of studies on https://www.emf-portal.org/en, or you can read EMF*D for a roundup of the literature in one place. Or just look up the effects of EMF on VGCCs. That alone is a good starting place.
https://signaturesmilezclinic.com
Hi, is there a link to how to be a vegan and healthy as discussed in the section starting at 56 mins? Just that I am looking for a comprehensive resource on how to do the right things overall as a vegan. Thanks in advance!
I am also going to respectfully disagree with the general sprouting suggestion / requirement for nuts and seeds.
The general public does not soak or sprout nuts and seeds, and the epidemiological evidence / studies suggest that unsoaked, unsprouted nuts and seeds greatly reduce disease and decrease death rates.
While there may be people with specific sensitivities that could benefit from soaking nuts and seeds, the advice here appears to be more of the typical fear mongering against plant based diets. Ben is suggesting that to eat nuts and seeds healthily, one needs to do some prep work. That’s categorically false.
Let’s look at the evidence.
The people in the scientific studies below are not generally soaking or sprouting their nuts and seeds. Or at least, there is no indication that’s the case in the studies. One could likely safely assume there is no soaking or sprouting because that’s not a general practice.
Studies and Sources:
People with stage III colon cancer who regularly eat nuts are at significantly lower risk of cancer recurrence and mortality than those who don’t, according to a new, large study led by researchers at Yale Cancer Center. The findings were published today in the Journal of Clinical Oncology.Feb 28, 2018
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180…
“Several studies show a great benefit from eating nuts, seeds, and legumes. In 2015, a Dutch study of 120,000 men and women between the ages of 55-69 found that those who ate about half a handful of nuts or peanuts each day were less likely to die from respiratory disease, neurodegenerative diseases, diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, or cancer than those who consumed no nuts or seeds.”
“Eating large amounts of peanuts, walnuts, or almonds can reduce the risk of developing breast cancer, according to a 2015 study of 97 breast cancer patients. 4 The researchers compared the lifetime consumption of nuts and seeds among the breast cancer patients with the consumption of those without breast cancer, finding that women who ate large quantities were half to one-third as likely to develop breast cancer”
“Eating nuts also seems to lower the risk of developing diabetes,8 which may then lower the risk of developing pancreatic cancer. In addition, a large study of women found that frequently eating nuts was associated with less chance of developing pancreatic cancer,9 one of the most deadly cancers.”
http://stopcancerfund.org/p-breast-cancer/can-a-h…
“Research has found that people who are at risk of a heart attack can cut their risk by eating a healthy diet that includes nuts. Research suggests that eating nuts may: … Lower levels of inflammation linked to heart disease. Reduce the risk of developing blood clots, which can lead to a heart attack and death.”
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/he…
Daily handful of nuts slashes the risk of disease and death
“So far, research has shown nut consumption to reduce the risk of coronary heart disease, stroke, and cancer, but new research suggests their health benefits may extend well beyond these major diseases.”
“Researchers from Imperial College London in the United Kingdom and the Norwegian University of Science and Technology in Norway analyzed a range of existing studies and tracked down associations between nuts intake and risk of various illnesses.”
Researchers used the medical research databases PubMed and Embase to search for prospective studies of nut consumption and risk of cardiovascular disease (CVD), total cancer cases, all-cause mortality rates, and cause-specific mortality rates published up to 19 July, 2016.
The analysis included 819,448 participants and included over 12,300 cases of coronary heart disease, more than 9,200 cases of stroke, more than 18,600 cases of CVD, and around 18,400 cases of cancer.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/314550
Interesting, I’ve wondered this myself with its because, did our ancestors really soak nuts? Would they not have mostly eaten them raw (or perhaps cook with them too, which may have broken down some of the anti nutrients possibly ?)
However Brad, although these studies suggest that nuts are good for you, in raw unsoaked form.
There aren’t any comparison studies here with soaked nuts, that would be great to see.
Perhaps;
raw nuts = good but soaked nuts = better?
Food for though, I’m sure time will reveal
Epidemiology “evidence” is by no means conclusive. It is well known that self-reported data is wildly inaccurate. Can you remember what you had for lunch 3 days ago? There’s also the problem of healthy user bias (I forget if that’s the actual term) where spurious conclusions are inferred.
The classic example being if you notice ambulances arriving at the scene of the accident every time, without knowing better you could assume the ambulance caused the problem. In this case, the studied patients that ate nuts may already live a healthier lifestyle.
Our food supply is vastly different today than for our ancestors’ thanks to the hybridization of foods, nutrient-depleted soil, and countless other factors.
They probably did soak nuts though. They soaked acorns so I would imagine they soaked nuts as well
I like this show and it provides a lot of helpful information, but I also like to point out the ironies.
In today’s observation, Ben is Worried about things like 5G and wifi, (which I am not sure has any proven harm) but yet is a fan / proponent of eating barbecued meat.
“Heterocyclic amines (HCAs) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) are chemicals formed when muscle meat, including beef, pork, fish, or poultry, is cooked using high-temperature methods, such as pan frying or grilling directly over an open flame (1). In laboratory experiments, HCAs and PAHs have been found to be mutagenic—that is, they cause changes in DNA that may increase the risk of cancer.”
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-preven…
Of course, you can reduce the cancer risk of barbecued meat by adding plant marinades to the meat (e.g., rosemary, oregano and other spices), However, A better way to avoid exposure would be to use an entirely different mehod of cooking.
Also, when you’re cooking barbecued meat, you’re likely breathing in toxic fumes
Does Barbecue Smoke Pose a Cancer Risk?
https://blogs.voanews.com/science-world/2018/05/3…
I guess we’re all entitled to pick and choose activities that may be harmful. I have Wifi, Ben likes BBQ ( :
Not really a valid comparison. As you mentioned temp and herbs/spices reduce risk of HCAs and PAHs. You can get the same formation on a stove at high temp. Yep, if you walk around a city you’re breathing in toxic exhaust. How much exposure do you have to BBQ smoke?
If you are like most people, you have exposure to Wifi nearly 24/7. Vastly different exposure levels.
You can either comb through the hundreds of studies on https://www.emf-portal.org/en, or you can read EMF*D for a roundup of the literature in one place. Or just look up the effects of EMF on VGCCs. That alone is a good starting place.