February 15, 2020
Katie Wells, CTNC, MCHC, Founder and CEO of WellnessMama.com and Wellnesse is my guest on today's show.
A mom of six with a background in journalism, she took matters into her own hands and started researching to find answers to her health struggles. Her research turned into a blog and podcast, and she’s now written over 1,500 blog posts, three books, and was named one of the 100 most influential people in health and wellness.
When she’s not reading medical journals, creating new recipes, or recording podcasts, you can find her somewhere outside in the sun with her husband (who she met walking across the country) and kids or undertaking some DIY remodeling project. Obligatory additional unrelated randomness: doula, speed-reader, hates bananas, loves baseball, scuba-diver, INTJ, highly experienced in answering the question, “Why?”.
Her new company Wellnesse is her debut line of high-quality, all-natural, and clean personal care products. It is based on the DIY creations she has been making in her kitchen for years and is set to launch in January 2020. Cruelty-free, GMO-free, and paraben-free are important personal care product qualities for Katie Wells, CTNC, MCHC, award-winning blogger, author, podcaster, and real-food crusader.
The first products in the Wellnesse product line include:
- Whitening Toothpaste
- Cleansing Shampoo for All Hair Types
- Smoothing Shampoo for All Hair Types
- Nourishing Conditioner for Wavy, Curly Hair
- Enriching Conditioner for Wavy, Curly Hair
Katie spent more than ten years researching the personal care market and perfecting her own recipes using safe and natural ingredients. Unable to find commercially-available products that lived up to their clean and green labels, she developed a mission to bring simpler, safer personal care to the homes of families across the country with Wellnesse.
During our discussion, you'll discover:
-Why Katie was doing a water fast at the time of recording the podcast…5:41
- Begin w/ time-restricted eating; progress to 24-hour water fast, eventually a 10-day water fast
- Every major religion includes fasting as part of their lifestyle
- Katie does it for the mental benefits, more so than the physical
- Book: Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
- Book: The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz
- Benefits of water fasting:
- Give the gut time to replenish
- Increase autophagy in the body
- Lowering age-related inflammation
- Immune benefits
-How Katie has lost over 50 pounds in the last 12 months…10:10
- Tried doing it “by the book” to no avail; saw real change when she dealt w/ the emotional elements of weight gain
- Suffered a sexual trauma as a teenager, and did not properly address it emotionally at the time
- Hormonal distress; sympathetic nervous system always on alert
- Therapy that involved being picked up, learning to trust others, adrenaline shake, etc.
- Similar to Trauma Release Exercise (TRE) therapy
- What is TRE® | Tension, Stress and Trauma Release : TRE®
- Book: The Healing Code by Alexander Loyd
-Biohacks or technology that are efficacious for weight loss…19:10
- Sauna
- Clearlight Saunas
- Cryotherapy
- Nutrition Genome
- 23andMe
-How Katie balances multiple businesses while raising 6 children…24:09
- Wellness Mama began with the simple desire to provide a better life for her newborn children
- Background in journalism sparked a desire for research in topics that weren't well-known at the time
- Became excessively stressed after the 3rd child
- Business was easy; implement and execute systems
- Family did not have as much continuity
- Began running the family like a business (systems, schedules, etc.)
- No nannies, personal assistant for business, a tutor for homeschool
- Children are involved in the business (working to their strengths)
- Children need to have a profitable business before they can own a car or a cellphone
-The process of testing and researching info that's published on Wellness Mama…32:03
- Structured work 3-4 hours per day
- Kitchen is a test lab for new products
- Environmental Working Group
- Concern over lack of oversight and accountability in personal care products
- FDA has little authority to pull products from shelves
- Major brand facing 15k lawsuits for using talcum powder in their baby powder
-Problems with your so-called “healthy” toothpaste…39:00
- Most natural toothpastes contain glycerine, alternative sweeteners that may harm the oral microbiome
- Ingredients to be found in a toothpaste made by Katie:
- Experimented w/ a paste that mimicked oil pulling
- Calcium
- Baking soda
- Meme and green tea
- Xylitol (beneficial for oral microbiome)
- Oral microbiome affects the gut microbiome more than we thought before
-The household products that are notoriously unhealthy and need to be swapped out right now…45:03
- Laundry detergent
- Toothpaste
- Conventional shampoo and sunscreen
- Many “Green” cleaning products contain harmful ingredients
- Fabric softener and dryer sheets can be linked to asthma, autoimmune disease
- Branch Basics cleaning products
- Children may experience early onset of puberty as a result of these products in the home
-Some of the products that Katie's company is focusing on in the next 12 months…51:54
- The majority of what you put on your skin will be absorbed by the body
- Make the products w/ beneficial ingredients that will be absorbed
- Focus on the most difficult and time-consuming home-made products on the Wellness Mama blog
- Wellnesse is a certified B-Corp.; don't need to focus primarily on profits to be successful
- Be careful when using lavender essential oil on boys (smaller amounts can be supportive)
- Two types of shampoo and conditioner
- Remineralizing toothpaste
- Sunscreen and bug spray
-Up and coming health trends Katie is excited about for 2020 and beyond…1:02:48
- Heart rate variability (HRV)
- Oura Ring
- Nature Beat app
- Bio Strap
- Sauna therapy
- Clearlight Sauna
- Increase heat as much as possible
- Wood-based essential oils
- Brain.fm
- Ben's biggies for HRV:
- Sleep, breathwork, meditation
- CBD at night
- Cold therapy
-And much more…
Click here for the full written transcript of this podcast episode.
Resources from this episode:
– What is TRE® | Tension, Stress and Trauma Release : TRE®
– Book: The Healing Code by Alexander Loyd
– Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine – Hormone-Containing Hair Product Use in Prepubertal Children
– Book: Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
– Book: The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz
– Morozko Forge ($150 off the retail price for any Forge)
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You mention towards the start of this episode that you have an (A,A) in one of your FTO SNPs, but continue to eat saturated fat. I am in the same situation and have been doing a high fat diet while avoiding saturated fats. How would I be able to self quantify if there really isn’t an issue for me to consume saturated fats? Would be a lot easier to do a keto diet.
Where is the discount code for the wellnesse products?
We’re not currently offering any discounts on the products other than free shipping if you purchase more than $40.00…
Hi Ben!
I took a Viome test and they found Entameoba Nutalli P19, which is so weird and rare the gastro doctor didn’t even know how to treat it! Is there any natural remedy you could recommend or should I just go with the doctor’s recommendation to take Flagyl?
I was just listening to your broken gut podcast where you said you took some chinese herbal remedy for parasites but wasn’t sure if I should post on that podcast or this one. Thank you I love your podcasts!!!
I am very excited and thankful that Katie is making these healthy products and am excited to start buying them! I have been following her for years now and have made a bunch of her make st home products as well as sharing with all of my friends. I am wondering about the discount code that you mentioned in the podcast. You never said a code but mentioned going to the bengreenfield website and connecting to Wellnesse through that link but it’s not generating a code either. If you could get that to me I would greatly appreciate it.
There is no code, unfortunately. Can't always manage to snag a discount for you all :)
How often should you do a 24 hour water fast?
Depends on your health and your goals. I do one 2-4 times a month.
Discount code?
Loved this so much…so happy for Katie <3
What is the CODE you mentioned for a discount on her products??
What were you saying about the amount of CBD you use for sleep benefits? Let’s say on the linked Element CBD 4800mg 60ml that you linked to in the show notes.
Would you get the same Benifits from the clear light saunas as you would from the Joovv?