Episode #143: Can “Prolotherapy” Make Your Injuries Vanish?

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In this April 27, 2011 free audio episode: Can prolotherapy make your injuries vanish, eating algae oil, increasing testosterone, frankenfoods, how to raise HDL, recognizing if your nervous system is overstrained, making a home gym, does the brand of fish oil matter?, training for a marathon on a low carb diet, does stevia elevate insulin, how to get off a weight loss plateau, compression gear, rotator cuff exercises, is bottled water healthy and is Ironman training bad for you?

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Featured Topic: “Can Prolotherapy Make Your Injuries Vanish?”

In today’s featured topic, I interview Dr. David Minkoff, a complementary and alternative medicine expert, owner of Body Health, director of the Lifeworks Wellness Center in Florida, and finisher of 37 Ironman triathlons. To listen to the previous podcast #26 with Dr. Minkoff, in which he discusses the main causes of illness and poor performance, just click here and to listen to my interview with him about “A Peek Into the Life Of An Ironman Physician”, click here.

During the interview we discuss:

What is prolotherapy?

How does prolotherapy work?

Who should get prolotherapy?

What types of injuries does it work for?

And much more.


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Listener Q&A:

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Armi: I had a question about algae derived DHA and it's benefits. Your podcast guest K.C. talked about how fish oil is best, but what about something like Udo's Choice DHA? Also, have you heard of Astaxanthin?

In my response to Arni, I mention the new fish oil, Innate, Vitamin D, astaxanthin package here.

Graeme asks: What are your thoughts on Ab Wheels – the type where you have a handle on either side of a single wheel and you roll out virtually to a plank position and then roll back in. Good for ab recruitment or a waste of time?

Tony asks: I read an interesting article about Frankenfoods: http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_22991.cfm . How does something like this fall on your morals and teachings?

DawnF asks: My husband was told today by his doctor that his HDL was too low, and that he should exercise and take niacin. (I've been trying to get him to do more than walk on the treadmill when I'm lifting weights and running in the gym, but he won't listen. Maybe now!) Anyway, would more strenuous exercise raise his HDL, and what do you think of niacin? He had open-heart surgery when he was in his late 30's (he's 52 now) so cardiac health is a concern. Thanks!

Danny asks: I have been training with weights and recently lost a lot of muscle weight. Not too happy about that. As as result I have been reading about overtraining. Listening to your podcast gave me detailed information regarding muscle response to training. Thank you! This whole CNS response is something that is unfamiliar to me. Do you have a couple minutes to discus this on an upcoming podcast? How does one know if their CNS is fully recovered and ready for more weight training?

Cathy asks: I am an active 46 yr old woman who is reasonably fit but working to improve fitness, strength and my running (5-10k). I feel I need some more focused strength training so I've decided to invest in some dumbbells to work with at home. However, I'm a little worried that I might over or under buy, not to mention some practical space considerations. I've narrowed it down to either 10-35 lb set of rubber hex dumbbells with rack, or a set of Ironmaster adjustables (5-75 lbs). I'm a gearhead and believe in buy once, cry once for quality, but don't know whether the Ironmasters would be more than I need despite the space savings. I have exceptional upper body strength and have enjoyed heavier lifting over the years, but get bored easily and enjoy a lot of variation to keep me motivated. The difference in price between these two options is not as big a deal as getting something that I can get maximal use of over the years. What would you recommend? Thanks!

kim asks: If I can only afford cheap fish oil should I take that or just not take fish oil?

Lisa asks: Hi Ben. I heard on another podcast that a weight plateau is due to apoptosis of omental, belly fat. I cant find any references to learn more about this. Do you think cell apoptosis explains why a wt loss stagnates for a short while?

Ginette asks: Presently, I am reading Arthur De Vany's “The New Evolution Diet” that you recommended. It is a very interesting read. I teach a unit on evolution, and nutrition, and my degree is in biochemistry so the book is a nice fit. Of the many interesting things I came across, was the mention of artificial sweeteners elevating insulin levels. Is this true? Also, will stevia have the same effects?

Andrei asks: Hi Ben, what do you think about compression gear? Do they really work? And what's best, compression calf guards, compression socks, compression tights? Do you really need different ones for recovery or training? And are you using any?

Zach J asks: I injured my shoulder doing dumbbell swings improperly late last November. It's healing, but it's a long, slow process. Just when it starts feeling pretty good, something I do will set it off again and it will hurt for a few days. Most recently, I was able to get into a pool and a couple laps of breast stroke made it ache for a few days. It handled the crawl alright though. My question is what are some ways I can a) speed healing of the rotator cuff, and b) still get a good, effective upper body workout without putting too much strain on that shoulder. Seems like every good upper body exercise (presses, rows, flies, etc) all stress the rotator cuff to one degree or another.

Dale asks: In part 2 of the interview with KC Craichy he stated that plastic bottles leach chemicals into the water in the bottle. He also stated color made a difference on how much chemical is leached. My bottle says it's bpa free. Do I need to throw it out? Could you please elaborate?

Josh Cox asks: I recently got a ton of tests done from a naturopathic doctor as I was constantly feeling lethargic, having sleep problems, as well as having a noticeable decline in my training performance (power output/low heart rate). Everything came out great except for my testosterone levels which is the main reason I got testing done. I had a hunch they were low (10.5 on a scale of 9-30). I also had an excessive amount of AST enzymes being produced (47 on a scale of 8-35). I'm only 22 years old and am currently training for some Ironman 70.3's, putting in around 20hrs a week. I'm pretty sure I hit a phase of overreaching/over-training, so I took a few days off due to the symptoms I described above. Anyhow, the doctor prescribed me to try out coconut oil an flaxseed oil for three months to see if that would help increase my testosterone and decrease my inflammation. I also bought some tribulus to, possibly, help as well. Is there anything else you would try if you were in my shoes? P.S. I know you're an advocate of high intensity training, but I have some extra time at the moment so long sessions work fine for me. And I love lengthy sessions outside; not really willing to give that up, ha.

Jerry has a call-in question about Ironman Training.

In my response to Jerry and Josh, I reference Episode #133.


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  11. Armi Legge says:

    Hey Chuck,
    Also the UA stuff uses compression to better insulate the body and keep your clothing from being baggy, not really for recovery. I think the calf socks are your best bet on recovery.

  12. feerlessfood says:

    In terms of the compression clothing conversation- wearing compression socks would only then have an effect on the lower legs, correct? It's my quadriceps that get the most sore so wearing compression socks would not help this, but compression tights may? And whats the difference between all that and the compression shorts (like Under Armor) that I've been wearing for years to work out in? Thanks Ben!

    1. it would have an effect on the entire body (anywhere where the blood is delivered to the body via the heart). Under Armor is not gradated, so it doesn't "milk" blood back to the heart.

  13. John says:

    Regarding your segment on 'Frankenfoods:'
    I have to flatly disagree with your sentiment when you say “everything you grab is going to be healthy, when in fact it could be heavily genetically modified.” I’m a college student in a major agriculture research university and I am studying both organic and biotech agriculture, and have worked in labs studying both organic and transgenic agriculture. You seem to imply that GMO foods are unhealthy. There have been no studies produced anywhere that correlate GMO foods with being unsafe, and many studies that say that the many GMO foods which are brought to market are safe. Your average Whole Foods or Trader Joes stocks perfectly healthy transgenic foods.
    Here are a couple of references:
    oThe Union of Concerned Scientists is anti-transgenic, and said in their 2004 report “Gone to Seed”:
    o” There is no reason to believe that genetic sequences originating in transgenic crops per se render food unhealthful.” (p. 37)
    o“…we have no evidence that these transgenically derived sequences are not safe and we do not believe their detection in this study raises food safety alarms.” (p. 38)
    o“…most novel gene products will probably prove safe to consume as food and feed…” (p. 38)

    oThe Organic Consumers Association is anti-transgenic, responsible for the “Millions against Monsanto” campaign you talked about in this podcast, and said in their 2005 article “Monsanto and Gene Giants Spread Genetic Pollution”:
    o“There's no evidence to date that biotech crops have caused any health problems.”

    Even organizations which are opposed to GMO foods endorse the position that transgenic food is healthy, at least given current research. Instead, they usually describe as the real problem with GMOs being the accidental fallout of so-called genetic pollution, which is the greatest moral hazard that Monsanto & Co. currently faces. Additionally, transgenic rice is currently en-route to curing a type of Vitamin A based blindness in children of undeveloped countries, which is so noble a task the Greenpeace has agreed to not burn down the testing fields.

    As a person, I respect the right that people have to keep differing opinions about whether or not the technology that produces transgenic organisms is ethical or not. However, the science is clear on this: transgenic food is pretty much identical to normal food, and may be better than normal food if the crop has been engineered to have, for example, omega 3 Fatty Acids or a complete amino acid profile. About the issue of labeling, I don’t care either way. Having labels won’t stop companies trying to improve their product, and customers will buy better products.

    1. In addition to reviewing the following studies, I'd recommend you check out: https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/2009/07/podca…

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      4. Netherwood et al. Assessing the survival of transgenic plant DNA in the human gastrointestinal tract. Nature Biotech. 22 (2004): 2.
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        41. Vecchio, L. et al. Ultrastructural analysis of testes from mice fed on genetically modified soybean. Eur. J. of Histochem. 48, no. 4 (Oct-Dec 2004):449-454.
        42. Oliveri et al. Temporary depression of transcription in mouse pre-implantion embryos from mice fed on genetically modified soybean. (48th Symposium of the Society for Histochemistry, Lake Maggiore, Italy, Sept 7-10, 2006).
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  15. Troy says:

    Can't find the "ask Ben" form. My suggestion is a discussion on autologus stem cell therapy.

    1. ask Ben form is up above. I just tested it and it works perfectly! look up in the Q&A section…

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