April 9, 2022
9 April 2022
Today on the podcast I'm joined by two guests, Jay Feldman and Mike Fave, to discuss and debunk many juicy “myths” circulating out in the health and fitness worlds today.
Jay Feldman is a health coach, independent health researcher, and the host of The Energy Balance Podcast. He has degrees in neuroscience and exercise physiology from the University of Miami and decided to forgo medical school after realizing that the conventional medical approach was not the solution to the health problems that so many of us face. After working through various conventional and alternative health paradigms and trialing countless diets (including everything from vegetarian to keto), Jay came across the idea that cellular energy is the foundation of our health. He now uses a bioenergetic approach to help men and women around the world maximize their cellular energy and achieve freedom from low-energy symptoms like chronic hunger & cravings, fatigue, brain fog, poor sleep, gut issues, and weight gain.
Jay is also joined by Mike Fave, an independent researcher and a Registered Nurse. While educated in conventional medicine as an RN, Mike spent close to a decade with his head inside a Pubmed article or a physiology textbook, and his heart in some type of nutrition or supplement experiment. At the beginning of his journey, Mike damaged his health by getting caught up in dietary dogma and nutrition ideology. He went the western medical route to try to fix the damage and wound up getting talked into a surgery he didn’t need. It’s taken him years to recover, but he doesn't regret it because he learned significantly from his mistakes. He saw all sides of the spectrum from being a patient to being a practitioner to being a part of the alternative health scene. He takes his lessons, experiences, and knowledge to help others not only avoid the mistakes he made, but help them rebuild their health without dogma, ideology, or authoritarianism.
During our discussion, you'll discover:
-The history of the bioenergetic model of health…06:38
- Dr. Ray Peat
- Generative Energy Podcast with Danny Roddy
- Dr. Ray Peat on One Radio Network
- The conventional medicine route wasn't working for them
- In-depth in physiology, cells, mitochondria
- Flow of energy drives biological function
- Opposes the “hormetic view” of health
- Energy is at the forefront
- Restricting energy flow has a deleterious effect on our health
- When you create stress in the short term, you get a short term burst of energy production and expenditure to deal with that stress; in the long term that comes at a cost to the flow of energy
- Hans Selye
-How Jay and Mike reconcile the dichotomy between their view and the traditional view of a hormetic approach to health…23:40
- There's a difference between substrate and energy production
- Ensure substrate is being converted into ATP
- Rate of living theory: the more energy we expend, the faster we age (scarcity mindset)
- There are better ways to create the positive effects of hormesis without the stress-induced on the body
-Why the traditional hormetic model is incorrect…26:08
- A conceptual shift in how the benefits of hormesis are perceived
- Understand the correct definition of hormesis
- “What doesn't kill you…can eventually kill you.”
-What causes energy access that leads to chronic disease…29:40
- Certain foods inhibit energy production in the body
- Excess substrate is not being converted into energy; instead is being converted into body fat
-What Jay and Mike's model looks like in the real world…34:42
- Whole food diet
- Carbs consistently throughout the day; sweet potatoes, tubers, etc.
- The Quick and the Dead by Pavel Tsatsouline
- HIRT vs. HIIT
- Focus on recovery, building muscle tension, not damage
- Brad Schoenfeld
-Clarity on what Jay and Mike's model does NOT mean…39:07
- Sleep 8-9 hours, then eat breakfast
- Podcast with Dr. Satchin Panda:
- Higher metabolic rates = longer lifespan
- Purpose of fat oxidation:
- In a starvation state, lots of Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) are created and meant to signal the slowing of respiration in order to survive for a longer period of time; ROS is the bottleneck
- Moderation of mitochondrial respiration mitigates metabolic syndrome of aging
- When producing a lot of ATP, the ATP is the bottleneck, which leads to increased ROS
- Dried goji berries, juice, red meat with cooked vegetables and butter is a typical meal
- Get enough nutrients to optimize function
- Sunlight, grounding
- Pay close attention to reducing as much stress as possible
- Stress is not just stimulating the body but creating a stress response, depleting energy and increasing stress hormones
- Stress is cumulative
- Optimize the athlete to get the most out of their training as possible
- Persistent stress that leads to exhaustion will not lead to optimal results
-Better ways to get the benefits of hormesis without the stress of hormesis…59:40
- Caloric restriction
- Cold thermogenesis is a generic stressor (in Jay and Mike's view) with unseen negative effects on the body
- There is only so much energy to expend throughout the day; the body can only produce so much energy at a given time
- Intermittent vs. long-term fasting
- Pay attention to all stressors you are putting on your body throughout the day
- The stress is a trade-off for how you feel keeping the endgame in mind
- How to Live by Derek Sivers
-And much more…
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Resources from this episode:
– Jay Feldman:
– Podcasts And Articles:
- The Secrets Of Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine Diet, Does A Morning Cup Of Coffee “Break Your Fast”, The Circadian Clock & Much More!
- My New #1 Hack For Zapping Inflammation, Increasing Deep Sleep & Recovering Faster – Earthing (The Most Important Health Discovery Ever?)
- How You Can Use Cold Thermogenesis To Perform Like Lance Armstrong And Michael Phelps
- Sunlight Makes You Skinny & Blue Light Makes You Fat: 11 Ways To Biohack Light To Optimize Your Body & Brain.
- The Complete Guide To Interval Training
- The Latest Research On Fasting: What 9 New Studies Say About Fasting’s Effects On Fat Loss, Satiety, Insulin Resistance, & More.
– Other Resources:
- Dr. Ray Peat
- Danny Roddy's Generative Energy Podcast
- Dr. Ray Peat on One Radio Network
- Hans Selye
- Brad Schoenfeld
- Science And Development Of Muscle Hypertrophy By Brad Schoenfeld
- Moderation Of Mitochondrial Respiration Mitigates Metabolic Syndrome Of Aging
- Hormesis Part 1: Does Stress Make You Stronger?
- Hormesis Part 2: Flawed Research And Harmful Misapplications (Including Ketogenic Diets, Intermittent Fasting, Calorie Restriction, And More)
- Regulation Of Longevity And Oxidative Stress By Nutritional Interventions: Role Of Methionine Restriction
- Glycine Supplementation Extends Lifespan Of Male And Female Mice
- Life-Span Extension In Mice By Preweaning Food Restriction And By Methionine Restriction in Middle Age
- Goji berries
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Do you have questions, thoughts, or feedback for Jay Feldman or me? Leave your comments below and one of us will reply!