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The TRUTH About What’s *Really* Causing Your Fatigue & The “Root Cause” Protocol to Fix It, With Morely Robbins.

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What I Discuss with Morely Robbins:

  • His transition from decades in hospital management to exploring the body’s “innate healer” after a frozen shoulder recovery…05:12
  • How copper acts as the “chef” of our cellular energy system, turning oxygen into water, regulating iron, and protecting the body from oxidative stress…07:56
  • How early oxygen wiped out most life on Earth, why copper became essential for safely managing oxygen, and how it enabled critical processes like energy production, melatonin synthesis, and cholesterol balance…11:29
  • His view that aging comes down to iron buildup and oxidative “rusting” in the body, disrupting energy production, a simple but powerful idea supported by decades of research on free radicals and cellular stress…15:04
  • Why the fatigue blamed on “low iron” may actually stem from hidden iron overload and a silent loss of copper-rich enzymes like ceruloplasmin…22:12
  • How chronic stress disrupts copper balance, drives iron into tissues, and tricks blood tests into showing “low iron,” creating fatigue and inflammation that stem not from deficiency, but from mineral imbalance…29:19
  • Unnecessary modern iron fortification that adds harsh, non-heme iron to our food, causing toxic buildup and mineral imbalance in the body…38:40
  • How glyphosate, fortified foods, and popular supplements may be quietly depleting the very minerals our bodies need for energy and why restoring one overlooked nutrient could change everything…45:26
  • How even natural options like bee pollen can be affected by widespread glyphosate contamination, and why taking copper alone isn’t enough without the right cofactors and fats to make it truly bioavailable…53:47
  • His “Full Monty Iron Panel,” a deeper way to measure mineral balance that uncovers stress, energy levels, and copper activity often missed by standard tests…57:26
  • The daily rhythm of his Root Cause Protocol, built on stopping certain supplements, reintroducing real food nutrients, and restoring mineral balance through whole-food forms of vitamins and copper-supporting minerals…1:02:51
  • Why most fatigue and chronic illness stem from cellular energy loss caused by too much iron, too little copper, and the body’s struggle to turn oxygen into true energy…1:09:37

Morley Robbins is the creator and founder of The Root Cause Protocol and the Magnesium Advocacy Group. Morley received his BA in Biology from Denison University in Ohio and holds an MBA from George Washington University in healthcare administration. Morley has trained in wellness coaching, nutritional counselling, and functional diagnostic nutrition.

He is also known as the Magnesium Man due to his extensive research into and understanding of magnesium’s role in the body. Morley’s research saw him deciphering the intricate relationship between magnesium, iron, copper, and calcium as a way to free ourselves from illness and dis-ease. As a certified health coach with an expertise in Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis (HTMA), Morley has performed thousands of RCP one-on-one consultations, helping people feel better by getting to the root cause of their symptoms.
The Root Cause Protocol (RCP) we discuss in this podcast was developed by Morley, who transformed a career in the mainstream medical industry into a quest to learn the fundamental components of a healthy metabolism. The RCP is the culmination of his many years of research and is revolutionary in its approach to health from a truly holistic perspective, by looking at the whole organism and how all the elements work together, rather than limiting the focus to isolated nutrients or conditions.
The RCP claims to work by restoring balance to the key minerals – magnesium, copper and iron – that must work together in order to optimize energy and increase vitality.
Now, the RCP is in Morley‘s new book “cure your fatigue” – a book devoted to educating the masses and their doctors exactly how and why this is happening. Our mitochondria make energy by a series of enzymes to work synergistically to create ATP, the cellular currency of energy. These mitochondrial enzyme reactions rely on minerals that are easily lost to stress. This book explains these concepts, how these challenges can be overcome and introduces the reader to a simple, proven Root Cause Protocol that is designed to generate more energy and end fatigue.

This book is designed for those seeking the truth in human metabolism and those wanting to take back control of their health. It is one part textbook and one part user's guide based on a decade of research and client experience

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Resources from this episode: 

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  • Books:
    • Morley Robbins, Cu-RE Your Fatigue: The Root Cause and How To Fix It On Your Own
    • Jym Moon PhD, Iron: The Most Toxic Metal
  • Articles:
    • Letter to the Editor by Albert Szent-Györgyi (Nature, July 4, 1936)
  • Studies:
    • University of Wisconsin (1928) – Study showing that withholding copper from animals caused the liver to fill with iron.
    • University of Kentucky (1928) – Follow-up study confirming the same copper–iron relationship.
    • Leslie Klevay (1973) – Research demonstrating that copper deficiency leads to elevated cholesterol.
    • Bruce Ames (2004–2005) – Findings showing tissue iron levels can be ten times higher than blood levels.
    • Denham Harman (1956, updated 2006) – Originator of the Free Radical Theory of Aging.
    • French nationwide glyphosate study (2022) – Found 99% of French citizens had glyphosate in their urine.
    • Dr. Don Huber (Purdue University) – Research documenting how glyphosate strips minerals like copper from soil.
    • Douglas C. Wallace (2005) – Study introducing the concept of “cellular energy deficiency” as the root of most chronic conditions.
    • Harvard 1960’s series of studies – nine different studies of ceruloplasmin
  • Other Resources:

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Ben Greenfield is a health consultant, speaker, and New York Times bestselling author of a wide variety of books.

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