April 21, 2012
[01:45] Where Kirk Came From
[09:30] How Body Language Changes Peoples’ Lives
[12:06] How Body Language Can Help Achieve Goals
[17:46] How It Affects the Brain
[22:29] Body Language and Athletic Performance
[26:26] Body Language and Nutrition
[30:52] Quick Tips To Feel Better
[34:11] End of Podcast
Ben: Hey, folks. It's Ben Greenfield. And when you're thinking about your fitness, the way that you eat, and your health, body language may not be something that comes to mind, but the fact is that it's really important when it comes to making positive changes in your life and basically trying to get yourself fit to perform at a higher level. Well, I have on the line with me today a body language master. His name is Kirk Duncan, he trains people in how to read body language. He does quite a bit of it himself and the guy really knows his stuff. I actually had the opportunity to see Kirk present what he knows about body language for about two hours down in Utah earlier this year, and it's pretty amazing, the extent of his knowledge when it comes to just seeing how the way you move and how the way you act affects the way that you're approaching certain things in life and also the changes that you can make in the way that you move and the way that you act to effect positive change. So, Kirk, thank you so much for coming on the call today.
Kirk: Oh, I appreciate it! This is awesome! Thank you.
Ben: Well, you kind of have a unique job. I think people have probably seen that show on TV, what's the show that's popular right now that has people reading body language?
Kirk: Oh, Lie To Me or [0:01:26] ______.
Ben: I think Lie To Me is the one that I'm thinking of, and that guy's obviously solving crimes with body language, I think, is the general gist of that show. In terms of what you do on a daily basis and kind of the way that your life works, being a master in body language, what is it that you do when you kind of wake up in the morning?
Kirk: Okay. That's a funny question. I love it though. The whole piece about buying on Kirk Duncan is that my come from, can I go there first? Can I just like, where I come from?
Ben: Yeah. Go for it.
Kirk: Here I am, Kirk Duncan on the Earth, and I come from this place of being massively overweight, and broke, no money, and not liking who I am. There could be quite a number of people who could relate to that. I come from that area. And along my travels, I've been fascinated with how people break free of cycles, how they break free of their tendencies, their habits. And I remember the day I woke up and I sat on the edge of my bed, and I was sitting there, my shoulders were slumped over, they were just kind of curved in, my head was hanging low, I dragged my feet as I walked, and I looked, instead of looking straight out in front of me, I looked down more than I looked up. And remember sitting there on the edge of my bed just going, “Oh, my goodness. What am I going do? It's another day. It's another of the same stuff. Argh. This drives me nuts. I'm going through the same stuff all over again. It's just another day of the week.” So, I was sitting there. As I was looking down, I felt myself being down on myself as I was looking down.
And just for all joking's sake, instead of just going, “Oh. It'd be so funny if all of a sudden I just looked up and all of a sudden I just felt better.” And I was sitting there on the edge of my bed, haven't left my bed yet, and I remember sitting there, looking at the floor, and all that was playing on my mind was everything that was wrong, bad, twisted, broken, all the sad stuff, all the problems and everything. And I decided to do something different. I lifted my eyes up, I mean my eyes went up first and my head wouldn't even move 'cause my head was stuck in that down position. I had my eyes look up. And then I couldn't quite see the ceiling, so I lifted my head up a little bit, and I just sat there for just a couple of minutes, just two, three minutes, looking at the ceiling, and the weirdest thing happened. When I'm looking at the ceiling, the thoughts in my head started to shift. Instead of all the stuff I was thinking about looking at the floor, looking at the ceiling, I noticed that the direction of my thoughts changed. And I started giggling. I went, “Alright. Like that really matters.” And I went back to looking, I was thinking about the fact that I was looking up instead of looking down. And I just joked about it, and then I thought there's no way that could just change how my mind was working.
And so, I looked back at the floor, and boom, I was back in the same train of thought about everything that was down about my life. So, then I looked back up at the ceiling. I was like, “What?” And I sit there and [0:04:45] ______ for a little bit, going, “What is messed with my head? This doesn't do anything. There's no way! There's no way that that makes a difference.” And so, I started playing with it. And through that day, I remember when I walked in the mirror and I'm looking at myself, 'cause now I'm like, “I'm going to play the game today. I'm going to look at the ceiling more than I look at the floor.” When someone asks me a question, I'm going to look up instead of looking down. I'm going to see what happens. Even when I got to the bathroom and, I think most people do this, they kind of get that visual appearance, like, “Okay. Here is where I'm chubby. Here is where I'm not healthy. Okay, I'm muscle here.” Just kind of assessing my demeanor. And my shoulders were kind of curved in and I straightened out my shoulders, like they're going to be broad shoulders. And at the time, I looked up at the ceiling with my shoulders all squared out and I kind of balanced my stance. Instead of having my feet too close together or too far apart, I kind of balanced them out, like they say, shoulder width apart type of stance.
And I stood there and something was different. And I cannot forget that day that something changed. Like the view I had of myself started to change. Like in these short little couple of seconds and moments of playing around with where my eyes were, where my head was, what my shoulders were doing, where my feet were at. And this is way before I even knew the whole body language world. I just wanted to feel better. So, now, like if I wake up today, I know what to do. I wake up, I'd straighten my shoulders out, I look up, I go to the mirror, I look at myself. And no matter what I see, I've got to create that image in my mind of where I want to go. And I know that the way in which my body is standing, moving, and positioned dramatically affects that. It's either going to be the result of my thoughts or I could use my body language to change my results. Does that make sense?
Ben: Yeah. It does make sense. And that's a really, really cool lead in, an interesting story. From that point, did you start doing things like losing weight and kind of getting more healthy?
Kirk: This part was really funny too is I noticed that my viewpoint of my stomach was that I hated my stomach. I hated it 'cause it was too big. I mean, I had reached my maximum weight I'd ever been at. I was 325 pounds, that's the heaviest I've been, and I hated my stomach. And I noticed that, well, I realized that I had gotten into this position of hating what my stomach looked like. And so, here I am, to the bottom of all bottoms of broke, I'm fat, my confidence was low. So, I started messing around with where I was looking, how I was standing. So, I remember standing in front of the mirror, this was the first time, it was on a different day, but I remember rubbing my tummy and going, “Aww. I love my tummy! I love my tummy!” And I was cracking up. My wife walks in the corner and goes, “What are you doing?” I go, “I love my tummy!” She goes, “No, you don't!” I go, “Well, guess what? Today is the day that I'm going to start loving my tummy.”
And you know, I know probably a lot of people on that are listening that would get this is that what were you saying, or the energy, or the thoughts and feelings that we have towards something really affects the performance of that. And so, I started to love my body, even though at this point I'm still at my heaviest and my fattest, I got more rolls and pudginess in all of the places I've ever had in my life, I had to switch. And because I switched and how I was thinking about myself and the way I was talking about myself, and I was literally standing differently, even rubbing my tummy, things started to shift. And it wasn't 'til after the numbers started coming down from the 325 and it started dropping down that I started to realize it does matter how I stand. It does matter how I hold my shoulders. It matters. Oh, it matters in a huge way!
Ben: Interesting. So, have you found that that type of approach has been able to change other people's lives? And if so, how have you been able to discover that?
Kirk: Well, right now I've done 2,135 presentations. And in all of these different presentations, what I noticed is that people that are overweight look down more and their shoulders are curved in. Now, some people would say it's because they're overweight. But when I have people stand on my stage, teaching, and I have 'em put their shoulders back and lift their head up, their face lightens up. It's like someone turned on the light in their face. And [0:10:05] ______ shows that I do, I give 'em a charge. Like, “Okay. I want you to do this. I want you to get up in the morning and stand like this and be like this. You don't have to say anything. Just stand like this and look at yourself in the mirror. Let's see what happens the next couple of days, and then e-mail me. Tell me how you feel.” And because of the response of the people and them telling me how their, “my whole life changed”, that's the common phrase, “my whole life changed” because of the way that they began to stand, the way they looked at themselves, they started to improve their choices. Choices of exercising, choices of eating. It's not THE answer, but it definitely massively affects how they're going to make their choices. So, I've learned that from watching people on stage and them teaching me what the difference is, not from me studying somewhere. My book of study is the human population. And so, after this many presentations and watching the common response that they love it.
Kirk: Well, that's what they teach me is that good stuff.
Ben: You know, I forget the coach that told me this at one point for swimming, because I do a lot of swimming to train for triathlon, but they advise me that when I walk out onto the swim deck to get in the water that I should walk tall, proud, keep my chin up. Basically, feel like I own the pool before I get in there.
Kirk: That's good!
Ben: That was a piece of advice that I received. But when you're looking at fitness, fat loss, getting a better body, losing that belly that you love, whatever the case may be, how can body language be used to get what we want? What are some practical ways that folks can actually achieve their goals by changing their body language? You talked about looking up and drawing the shoulders back. Are there other kind of practical lifestyle tips that you give to folks?
Kirk: Absolutely. Quick little story here. We were in a store, and I have three boys, and my two oldest boys were with me, and as we were driving to the store, I was telling them about a class I just done and how these people, the way they saw themselves had changed them dramatically. And they were kind of ribbing me, like, “Yeah, dad. Whatever. You're just trying to tell us all that good stuff to make you sound good.” And I'm like, “No, you guys. It really happens this way.” And they were laughing at me and whatnot, 'cause they're kids. I mean, it's their dad. C'mon. It's just our dad. And so, anyway, we walk into the store and we're in the store for about 10 minutes. And this person walks up to me and goes, “Uhm, sir? Can you help me with something?” And it's somebody who's shopping at the store and they're talking to me. And I go, “Now, I don't know where this stuff is at.” And they go, “Oh. Well, can you give me suggestions of what I should buy?” And I go, “Now, why are you talking to me? I don't work here.” And they go, “Oh! Sorry! You looked like the owner of the company.” And my kids looked at me, and looked at this person, and I looked at my kids like, “See? It does matter how you stand.” And no sooner than right after that, like just a few minutes later, another person walked up. And my kids just rolled around, like, “Oh, shoot. Dad's right.” Here I am, standing in the store, and the way in which I stood gave off the presence that I owned the store.
And that's why I giggled when you said when your coach taught you to act or stand like you own the pool. That right there, that mentality? I would have to say is so critical in the world out there today as a parent and as a business owner. And I say parent because too many parents right now are, I'm going to say it, sloppy with their body language. The parents, they stand in such a way that it looks like nobody owns the home. Their shoulders are dropped, their head's drooped, they're standing on one leg, and I'm going to give some tips here in just a second, but they're standing on one leg, and so, the kids are looking at their parents, going, “You don't even look like you're taking charge.” They don't look. They sound like it, 'cause parents are trying to be more verbally strong with their kids, but what kids feed off of is what their parents look like. Is mom standing there on both feet, balanced? Or is mom standing on one leg, looking like I can knock her off balance. And kids right now really feed off of parents who look unstable 'cause they know they can get their way with their parents. And the same thing with business owners, that clients, when they see the business owner, if that business owner doesn't look like they're standing there owning the space that their standing in or the way that they're standing in their office or at the counter, if they don't look solid and balanced and look that way, they will literally take their business somewhere else.
Okay, so here's a couple of things. One is that stance, balance on both legs. Too many people today, they're quickly going to stand on one leg. And the common phrase out there is, “Oh, it's more comfortable to stand on one leg.” It's not. From a chiropractic point of view, it's not comfortable to stand on one leg because it throws everything out of balance. And so, when a person is balanced on both legs and their shoulders are not, I don't know what the word is, curved in, drooped in, I don't know what fancy word to use there, but their shoulders are nice and pulled back, not too far, and then a big piece is their chin is up. Not in the snooty up, but just that the chin is level. The head's not tilted down too far, but that chin is up. When the chin's up, the shoulders are nice and square, male or female, and the feet are balanced, and the way that it's balanced on both those legs, oh my! That is a stance that people just love. They're attracted to it 'cause it looks like the person is in balance, which then translates into that person is in order. And that's what kids want to work with parents, and that's what clients want to with a business owner, just somebody who's balanced and in order.
Ben: And so, when we're, say, walking around the gym, doing a workout, or we're walking out on to the pool deck to hop in the pool to swim, or maybe we're even standing around on the starting line of something like a triathlon or a marathon, that's the type of posture that we should be aiming for?
Kirk: Yeah. And if somebody was looking at a person, they might think, “Wow. That person likes himself,” or say, “Wow. They're confident,” or, “Wow. They're very sure of themselves.” And there's been a lot of negative connotation out there that that's a bad thing. But yet those people that look that way and give off that type of message, they're the ones who are successful, those are the ones who are healthy, those are the ones who are moving forward, who are not stuck. Very positive place to be.
Ben: Now, I'm curious. If we wanted to geek out on this a little bit and talk about the physiology, or the brain chemicals, or something of that nature and how body language affects health or affects fitness, have you ever run into any research that shows that there's actually something going on inside your brain or inside your body when you're doing something like pulling your shoulders back, or looking up, or walking more tall and proud, or standing on both feet, or using any of these mechanisms that you recommend?
Kirk: Oh, yeah. We could geek out on this. Inside the brain, and I still tell my mom to this day that if I would've studied harder in school, I could remember all these really smart terms, so, I'm going to give you my cowboy term versions of how I explain it if we're out on the farm. That good?
Ben: Cowboy's cool. That's fine.
Kirk: Okay. Here I am from Lander, Wyoming and I love the cowboy world because it's just simple phrases. Okay. So, conscious, subconscious. What happens is inside of our brain, and from a chemical standpoint, our body language is a result of the way in which we allow ourselves to be. There's a default stance that we have when we stand. When we go to push ourselves into a new stance, it causes the chemistry inside of our brain to dump new chemicals because, oh, shoot, I know I'm going to say this wrong. I'm not even going to try. I'm not even going to try. They're very, very big words. But the way the brain works on the inside is that as the message is sent down through the cells in the brain, there comes a point where there's a chemical that is released from one leg of a cell to the next leg of the receiving cell. And the amount of those chemicals that are transferred over there, it creates a new message.
And in my learning of this that I can create new messages, there's power or energy that's stored inside of me that I didn't know I had because I never created a new path. And when force upon myself a new stance, back in the beginning when I forced upon myself a new, more confident stance, I didn't realize what I was beginning to do was to train my brain how to create new pathways for other things I want in my life. So, putting myself into a new stance and holding that and me forcing, literally forcing my muscles to be a new way and my brain to adjust, adjust, adjust created a whole new path in my life for goals that I wanted, new financial level I wanted, new relationships that I wanted, that I created that whole process that my brain got accustomed to. “Oh. Kirk's at it again. He wants to change the way he's doing it.” Literally, I know, from the other smart people around me, that there's chemicals that it switches, from the amount of the chemical deposits that happen literally transforms the receiving and sending of the messages inside the brain and creates this new path.
Kirk: So yeah, got to say all those smart words.
Ben: So, basically, it sounds like better nerve transmission and maybe even building new neurons, or new brain cells, or something of that nature in terms of the areas that you want to grow in when you change your body language as you're in those situations?
Ben: Something along those lines?
Kirk: Yeah. Because the body, if I can't change my body, how do I expect to change my income? If I can't change my body's stature, how do I expect to change my relationship between my wife and I so it's better or between myself and my boys? My body, this is me. And if I can't run me, if I can't control what I'm doing, how do I expect to control anything on the outside of me?
Ben: Yeah. It makes sense.
Kirk: If I want to raise my financial level and I can't cause myself to stand taller, really? Like I'm really going to get my finances to go higher, but I can't cause myself to stand tall for more than 10 minutes? It's like that, to own the world that you have or your body, own that and learn how to manage that, then everything else around you becomes more simple to manage.
Ben: So, along the same lines, let's say someone is actually in the middle, in the heat of competition, they're running a marathon, maybe they're riding a bike in the middle of a triathlon, maybe they're even doing a weightlifting competition, or a tennis match, or anything of that nature, I know these are all different sports, but in terms of body language, have you ever run into anything that kind of shows that people can change what they're doing during an event to allow themselves to achieve more or perform better?
Kirk: I'll tell you, the one key thing that I've heard from athletes that I've worked with and other people that those athletes know, there's a tendency when in competition, when right before or during, that to get really focused is to look down. To look down within a person's self. And you can see that through images, photographs, and even watching video or TV of people who are competing. Like right now, I'm imagining a tennis competition that I saw where they got done, the score is close, and it's down to the last couple of moments here before who's going to win, and they look down. Looking down does look down inside of yourself. A key factor here is most of the time, if a person has emotion experiences that they've stored up in their life and they're still holding inside their body, that those emotions can be tapped into and distort that person's ability. And so, I know this kind of going off in a little tangent, but I want to just suggest that a key factor to owning your body language is to release as much negative emotion as possible and exercise is a powerful way to do that. If you want to tap into everything that you have inside of you in the form of a mental focus or all the energy is to balance the amount of time you look down and the amount of time that you look up.
Watch athletes, when they finish, or they're in the middle of a game, or it's half time, or they're taking a break for a moment, and you'll see them looking down and you'll see other athletes looking up to focus. My suggestion that I have for people is to balance that. ‘Cause when we look down and we are concentrating, the blood inside of our head rushes to the forward, the front part of our mind, and is giving more nutrients and everything to the front part of our brain. Where when we're looking up, now it rushes to the back. And so, if we balance that out, we'll have more of our, how do they say it, athletes, what they tell me is by balancing that, they're now taking on more of that “whole brain” experience. And not only looking down, only tapping into that energy, that power, that knowledge, that inspiration by looking down, but to balance both of those. So, if a person is competing, remember balance. That's the key phrase in all of that is balance. If you're going to look up, also have moments where you're looking down. You're going to be looking to the left while you think, also look to the right while you think. If you're going to stand on one leg, balance it by standing on the other leg. But to keep that constant balance in whatever you're doing. Does that answer your question?
Ben: Yeah. It does make sense. It seems like any time you tilt the head down, especially during physical activity, it does seem to affect the way that you move. Specifically, you'll notice that a lot of the good marathoners out there, a lot of the good cyclists, even a lot of the good swimmers, they're looking just slightly forward. There's always that slight upward tilt of the chin and it seems like that's a constant among a lot of performers is looking forward, but also the things that you went over when you talked about just changing your life's outlook and the decisions that you make in terms of health and fitness, and that is basically having the shoulder blades squeezed back, the tummy drawn in and standing tall a little bit. A lot of those things that you went over, I've definitely seen folks doing during an event. So, yeah. It does make sense.
Now, what about eating. When it comes to dieting, nutrition, any body language tricks out there to take better charge of their nutrition and the way they eat? Whether it be their appetite cravings or maybe how much they eat when they're setting up the table, that type of thing.
Kirk: This is where it switches from, well, there's two parts here. One, it goes inside. It goes inside. So, when a person is eating, I really believe that there's body language when it comes to the inner organs of who we are, that there's some immediate feedback that we get from the food that we eat. And I know that some people think I'm nuts for saying this, but I remember one time I was getting into the cupboard, looking for a snack. And I was roaming for a snack, and I stopped for a moment and went, “Well, actually, what should I eat right now?” And I'm not kidding, there was a message from the inside that went, “Oh. He's asking! Tell him! Broccoli! We need broccoli! Get broccoli!” And then there was the thought that crossed my mind, “Oh my gosh. Broccoli? Are you kidding? That sounds gross.” And the message was very strong. “No! We need broccoli!” So, I went into the fridge, grabbed some broccoli there and started eating it. And it's in this moment of my life where I was really tuning into what my body wanted in the form of nutrition. And I really, really believe that there on the inside of us, there is a language of our organs that are speaking to us that there are things that we are craving or hungering that are nutritionally impactful to our survival and our top performance. And when I find myself after I eat, if I find myself slumped over or sitting in a way, like, say, dinner's over and I'm sitting on the couch and I feel this heaviness or I see my shoulders drooping over, I now know the food that I ate had just dropped my energy levels. It just dropped my overall positive/negative feeling going through my body, and I take note, “Okay. That food I just ate just now affected my whole stature.”
And so, when I'm at a body language show and seeing somebody up on stage, I'll ask, when they're really drooped over, I'll ask him, “What did you eat? What did you eat in the last three, four hours?” And most of the time, when a person is standing in a very, in my mind, I call it, you're in a hangover because their head's hanging over, their shoulders are hanging over, their hands are very, I call it, floppy or loose, and their feet are pointing in two different directions, I know that the food that they just ate threw them off course. Like they have no direction, they have no power, and they're suffering, and their body language says this from the food that they've just ate. And then in the same class, somebody'll get up there and they'll be standing tall, strong, feet pointing forward, and I'll use that as an example and ask them, “What did you just eat in the last couple of hours?” And 99% of the time, the person will step there and go, “Hey. Man, I just had myself this, and this, and this,” and it's just all the good, yummy things to eat. Healthy, yummy things to eat. But it dramatically affected the way that their body could stand. Eat good, healthy food, you stand stronger. Eat junk, eat crap, you're going to look like crap.
Ben: So, don't just pay attention to the way that you perform after a meal or something like that. Pay attention to what happens to your actual body language?
Kirk: Yeah. Look at yourself and see how you're standing, and you'll know if that food lifted or you holds you down. There's a big piece in that. When I hold mentoring appointment and then the client will walk in, I watch how they walk in and sit down, and I can tell what their eating habits are like just by how they sit. How they walk in, I can tell if they're eating junk food or not.
Ben: Gotcha. Interesting.
Kirk: Then I know that affects their brain and their decision-making abilities, and then I know what's really affecting them on the inside.
Ben: So, kind of a recap for people who are listening right now who have all this information kind of floating around inside their heads, most people are, they're not necessarily sitting in front of their computer, they might be off driving around, or perhaps standing in line, or whatever else while listening to this interview. If you were to give people just a few quick tips, like toe to head, here's what you can do right now to feel better, literally for someone who is listening right now, what would be some of those tips that you would give them?
Kirk: Okay. Number one, spend some time, if you're driving, or sitting at your office, or wherever you're at, you gotta find somewhere where you are spending time looking up and pondering about your life. Like two, three minutes. Very, very short amount of time, but look up and think about your life because you can't help but have a vision about who you are and it will lift you. So, looking up. The second one is, everywhere you go, do your best to keep your chin up. Keep it up. I mean, even if you're having just a terrible day, keep your chin up. It keeps that head balanced, and you will be treated with a high level of respect from people around you, and you could be having the worst day of your life but still have respect happen. People too many times drop their chin, people perceive they're down. Some will take them, some will console them too far and them like a pity party, but keep that chin up. And another key factor too is balance yourself on both legs and keep your feet pointed straight. There's a tendency to get sloppy with our feet. And when we're standing around people, let ‘em point in all different kinds of directions, show people that you are intention about the direction you're going, and you'll see a very high level of positive response from people with a chin that's up, eyes that are open, the legs that are balanced, and the feet that are pointing in a very intentional direction. That right there is a very simple stance, but it makes such a huge impact. Like they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. They will take a picture of you in one second in their mind. Their first look at you, they will take a picture, and that is worth a thousand words within that first second. No matter what comes out of your mouth, they will believe the image in your mind more than what you say.
Ben: Hmm. Interesting.
Kirk: ‘Cause you can't say a thousand words in a second. And by the time that's two seconds, they take in a second picture of you. Now, they've got 2,000 words on you. Then it goes on, and on, and on. You cannot convince somebody that you are different than what you appear. There's no way. And when they walk away from you, they will forget whatever you said within two to three days, they'll forget most of that. But they will remember what you look like. They cannot erase that image in their minds.
Ben: Gotcha. Well, folks, if you're listening in, Kirk's website is 3keyelements.com. That's 3keyelements.com. I will link to that website in the show notes. He's got some videos on there, he's got a lot of information about the trainings that his company does for folks, whether you're a corporation or group of individuals. He's got his body language show, which I went to, which was very interesting and extremely educational. So, I'd recommend that you check out Kirk's website and a lot of the information that you need for further resources on body language is right there. So, Kirk, thank you so much for coming on the call today and sharing this stuff.
Kirk: Hey. You rock. Good job at what you're doing. Love what you do. Good job! Thank you!
Ben: Alright. Thanks, Kirk!
When I was in college, one of my roommates was totally geeked out on body language.
He had shelves full of books about how to get what you want with your body language, including how to tell if people are lying based on their body language, how to sell with your body language, and how to get girls with your body language.
I remember being both fascinated and frustrated by his uncanny ability to know instantly if there was any shred of untruth in anything I told him, and also his ability to know exactly what I was thinking nearly 100% of the time.
Sometimes, he'd even have me tell him a story that I may or may not have contrived, and he instantly would know whether I was lying or telling the truth.
But is it really true that body language is that powerful, and, if so, could it be used to enhance human performance? In other words…
Can body language be used to “get what you want”?
Can your body language directly affect your health or fitness?
Are there things that you can do during a workout or event (like a marathon) with your body language to perform better?
Can body language help you to eat better or fix your diet?
I ask all these questions and more to Kirk Duncan in today's interview, and I also include a fantastic infographic: “How To Use Body Language To Be More Attractive”.
Kirk Duncan (pictured right), president of 3 Key Elements, is a trainer, mentor and body language master. I met Kirk in Utah a couple months ago, and went to one of his body language seminars. It was pretty powerful stuff.
Kirk's job is to help people find the obstacles that they face and show them how to get through them. He has taken the tools he’s discovered through many years of observing people’s body language and developed a system for training and teaching others in such a way that they experience breakthroughs quickly and permanently.
Today, in this audio interview, Kirk teaches you the Art Of Looking Good With Your Body Language.
Also, be sure to check out the graphic below about using body language to be more attractive. The text gets a bit small in places, but you can click on the image to get a close-up.