The Shocking Truth About You Getting “EMF*D”: 5G, Wi-Fi & Cell Phones – Hidden Harms & How To Protect Yourself

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This week, I sat slack-jawed and shocked in my bed as I read my friend Dr. Joseph Mercola's new book about 5g dangers, EMF*D: 5G, Wi-Fi & Cell Phones: Hidden Harms & How To Protect Yourself

The hazards of electronic pollution may once have been the stuff of science fiction, but now we know they're all too real, and with the advent of 5G ultra-wideband technology, the danger is greater than ever.

The dangers of electromagnetic fields are real – and I just had to get Dr. Mercola on this podcast to talk about exactly what they are and how you can protect yourself. He's one of the world's foremost authorities on alternative health, and in this latest title, he has mined the scientific literature to offer a radical new understanding of how electromagnetic fields impact your body and mind.

In this first-of-its-kind guide, he reveals:

• What EMFs (electromagnetic fields) actually are, where you find them in your daily life, and how they affect you
• The toll that EMFs have been proven to take in conditions such as cancer, heart disease, and neuropsychiatric illnesses
• Why you've been largely kept in the dark about this threat to your health
• How you can actually repair the damage done by EMFs at a cellular level
• Practical strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones from EMFs at home, at work, and out in the world

The coming 5G technology will be pervasive and powerful. It will also be one of the largest public health experiments in history, with no way of opting out. That's why you need to listen to Dr. Mercola. Now.

During this discussion, you'll discover: 

-Why Dr. Mercola wrote this new book…7:26 

  • Mitochondrial dysfunction is really one of the primary ways we age and develop chronic illness
  • Three years ago realized EMFs were one of the primary ways our mitochondria are damaged and very few people were warning the public about that
  • Written 14 books but this is his last one for 5-10 years as he has a new strategy for creating content

-Dr. Mercola's new strategy for creating content…9:22

  • Ben played a major part. Took three years to write Boundless and it had 3000 references.
  • Another factor was conversation with Dave Asprey in a private party with JJ Virgin at Mindshare. He recommended a book by Ryan Holiday Perennial Seller which helped Dr. Mercola understand how to write a classic book that will be read for decades requires many years to create and many many drafts of the book as the first few drafts are typically terrible.
  • So rather than write more books Dr. Mercola is going to be writing scientific reviews for journals. It has been about twenty years since he published in the science journals and thought it was about time to start up again.

-Oh yeah? What are those resources?…12:30

  • One is Tyler Lebaron, one of the sharpest scientists, humble, brilliant chemist, biochemist and knows molecular biology well.
  • The big one is RSS feeds (really simple syndication), which is essentially an easy way to stay up to date with your favorite websites, such as blogs or online magazines or PubMed which is really important
  • RSS feeds were how Dr. Mercola was able to find and write about so much great content in the early days of his site. In 2005 he used an RSS reader called Google Reader but they shut it down six years ago.
  • Would not use it now though even if it was up because Google is evil on steroids.
  • Alternatives to Google
  • RSS Feed search for PubMed lets you follow as many search terms so you don’t have to go to Pub Med every day and do individual searches for them
  • There has been a trend towards open access and now nearly 1/3 articles on PubMed are now free to read
  • If you or someone you know has academic credentials at a university you can typically get free access
  • 25-page paper with 200 references on blood flow restriction (BFR).  It isn’t published yet but I can give your listeners a 25-page consumer summary with videos and if they want can send the review paper after it is published in

-Why the public does not accept that EMF is a serious danger to their health…22:00

  • In 2011, the WHO labels cell phones as a class 2B carcinogen
  • 2018, NTP study shows that cell phones are clearly class I carcinogen
  • Cellphones are the cigarettes of the 21st century
    • Kills you slowly
    • Companies knew it killed customers (as do cell phone companies)
    • Same PR agencies discredit researchers (creating doubt and controversy among the public)
  • Convenient and useful
  • Invisible Captured media
  • Captured federal regulatory agencies
  • FCC started 6 BILLION dollar program to spread 5G to rural areas
  • EMF is unavoidable (unlike cigarette smoke, which you can mitigate somewhat)

-What 5G is exactly, and why would folks want it in the first place…32:15

  • 100X faster than 4G.  Most don’t need it now
  • Possible commercials use that need high bandwidth like self-driving cars
  • SpaceX rollout
  • There have been zero safety studies on the effects of 5G
  • AT&T
  • As we start 2020 implementation is not widespread.  Companies like AT&T lie and say it is 5G and it isn’t
  • Go to browser on phone and go to and hit enter unless > 500 megs per second it is NOT 5G
  • Fiber optic cable is the best alternative to 5G
  • It's essentially a giant public health experiment

-How to mitigate NAD damage from EMF and how can we increase it in our bodies…47:25

-How to activate the NRF2 pathway…1:03:21

-Why magnesium is a good supplement and the best forms to take…1:06:30

-Technologies that can repair the damage caused by EMF…1:11:36

-How to read a chapter of Dr. Mercola's book for free…1:21:15

Resources from this episode:

Click here for the full written transcript of this podcast episode.

Dr. Mercola's website

– Dr. Mercola's new book EMF*D: 5G, Wi-Fi & Cell Phones: Hidden Harms & How To Protect Yourself

– BGF podcasts with Dr. Joseph Mercola

– Books by Dr. Mercola

– Book: Perennial Seller by Ryan Holiday

– Book: The Carnivore Code by Paul Saladino

– Book: Dirty Electricity by Sam Milhan

BGF podcast with Tyler LeBaron about molecular hydrogen

Tyler LeBaron doing one-arm pull-ups in a three-piece suit

BGF podcast with JJ Virgin

BGF podcast with building biologist Brian Hoyer

Shielded Healing, Brian Hoyer's company

– BGF podcast with Nick Pineault: The Non-Tinfoil Guide to EMFs

How To Migrate From Chrome To Brave RSS Feed search for PubMed


Qwant search engine

Ketone Aid

Transdermal Magnesium

Water and Wellness hydrogen tablets

The Carnivore Code by Dr. Paul Saladino

BGF podcast w/ Clint Ober

Dr. Mercola's recent podcast w/ Ben Greenfield 

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34 thoughts on “The Shocking Truth About You Getting “EMF*D”: 5G, Wi-Fi & Cell Phones – Hidden Harms & How To Protect Yourself

  1. Chris says:

    I am usually a big supporter of Ben & Dr Mercola but the Electronic Engineer and Critical Thinker inside of me has way to many red flags going up about this particular episode.

    1. The amount of times Dr Mercola dodges difficult questions Ben asks and redirects on some mildy related tangent is infuriating and the very fact that Ben does nothing to stop it is even worse. It makes the entire podcast feel very PR driven.

    2. Starlink is NOT 5G. If Dr Mercola knew anything about RF he would understand why Starlink can not be 5G (higher frequencies do not radiate as far as lower frequencies and are attenuated more by water ie clouds).

    3. If no studies have been done on 5G safeties or dangers then what is this all about. You cant say on one hand that you can use 3G and 4G studies to determine the safety of 5G when they are an order of magnitude higher in frequency. You also contradict yourself by saying sunlight is safe and close in the spectrum to 5G. How is it reasonable to make the jump for one case and not the other!? If you are going to winge about the lack of studies, why not propose how to do one on the podcast? Or even put your money where your mouth is and fund one? The amount of open source tools to setup mock infrastructure these days is amazing and very affordable.

    4. Why not go into a little more detail as to what 5G is as compared to 4G and 3G. I suspect Dr Mercola doesnt actually know. Hint: 5G describes an advance in the protocol, not the frequency bands used which Dr Mercola has an issue with.

    5. Ben, what kind of phone do you have? Currently there are so few phones on the market that support 5G and even if you do have one of the few that does, when your phone switches over it might not even be the millimeter band frequencies that everyone has a problem with.

    6. Yes, google is the devil. The amount they control the perception of ‘The Internet’ is scary. However your recommendation whilst decent can be made better instead of using Brave, use Firefox. As Brave uses the opensource Chromium engine, a lot of core developers that work at Google (so they basically drive a lot of the decisions that control the web since so many browsers use Chromium under the hood). Whereas Firefox is owned by Mozilla and does not use Chromium under the hood.

    Dr Mercola, I am sure this podcast was meant to drive sales to your book but you could at least try not drive it with extreme fear mongering (especially during a Pandemic whereby people are doing unreasonable things to infrastructure).

    Ben, I always enjoy your podcasts but this one was bad. I enjoyed your parenting tip with incentivized reading. Keep up the good work and maybe dont be afraid to push back on your guests more as they end up controlling how you look.

    1. Chris says:

      Also you drive a Tesla Dr Mercola. The amount of magnetic and RF interference electric cars emit vs what you will receive from a 5G tower miles (RF only) away is again orders of magnitude higher.

      1. John says:

        5G towers are installed not 20′ from my bedroom window. Who should live like this?

    2. Steve says:

      Well said Chris. Mercola has lost a lot of my respect over time. If he gets a lot of diet and nutrition right (I judge) he has also become a major source of unproven woo factor fear mongering and actual disinformation campaigns.

      And while I think Ben is sincere, he certainly keeps a very loose filter on the ideas and promoters he presents on his platform. Perhaps its a mix of supporting and giving wide credence to his industry and the need to keep the content rolling.

      I will pay attention to Mercola when he appears with Dr Attia or Rhonda Patrick. They are true information curators I can trust. With Ben, its more lke Joe Rogan. Anybody is welcome. Not all bad but one needs to remain highly skeptical of Bens guests and their messages.

      1. Jim says:

        “information curators” – you mean censors.

  2. Derek Dwilson says:

    I looked it up and Starlink is not 5G.

    “Starlink is intended for about the 3% “hardest to reach customers” for telecommunications companies, in rural areas where “5G is really not well-suited,” Musk said. SpaceX intends Starlink to have a high-speed connection for any users, with latency below 20 milliseconds.”…

    1. John says:

      “5G is really not well-suited,”
      Is 5G really suited anywhere? No one has confirmed its safety.

  3. Big respect to @bengreenfield for delving into some of the most serious threats to our collective health with Dr. @Mercola. Some health gurus will not touch the subjects of #vaccination and #5G as they won’t risk their algorithmic celebrity, but not Ben.

  4. Richard says:

    Not all L-carnosine as the same. You need carnosinase resistant carnosine, otherwise, L-carnosine supplement is useless, this is crucial.
    There is a bunch of info about Carnosine on Karnopedia.
    Russians went long way ahead

  5. Kat Lucen says:

    Thanks for the great podcast Ben and Dr Mercola.

    For those interested in BFR, I think this short excerpt from the stronger by science crew, who are very research based, will be interesting:

    What does the research say about blood flow restriction training?

  6. Matt Wilson says:

    Wait, Dr. Mercola what about EMFs inside the Tesla? Kruse once said he went to a Tesla showroom with an EMF meter and “They were not prepared to meet Jack Kruse.” LOL

    I drive a car with no wifi signal and use USB instead of Bluetooth for this reason. Thanks.

  7. Corey says:

    Hey Ben,

    Just listen to this episode. Very enlightening. My question is I have a Garmin Fenix 5x plus watch. I don’t have bluetooth or wifi connected to my phone (never set that feature up).

    There still is GPS on the watch but from my understanding is that it’s only on when you’re using a function that requires it like workouts or maps.

    So is this watch safe to use? or is there still EMF being emitted?

    Thank you for taking the time

    1. Arthur Kiwacz says:

      I have a garmin 935 and if you disable the phone connectivity it does not emit any frequencies. I verified this with goevital’s HF Meter. You can still use gps and hr function without any radiation.

  8. Johannes says:

    Greetings Ben. So needless to say there is a lot of confusion regarding grounding and dirty electricity. Dr. Mercola recently released a podcast with Brian Hoyer, whom you obviously worked with, stating that you and Clint are misinformed in regards to the subject. Dr. Mercola had nothing but kind words about yourself and Clint but his statement has caused considerable confusion on whether My wife and I should continue use the grounding mat for our bed? Brian stated there was only one Meter he knew of that could measure dirty electricity and it is very expensive. So without the ability to accurately measure, I took away from his comments, one would have to lean to the ground having dirty electricity? Especially in a densely populate area, such as where we live, where there are multiple apartment building and power lines. We purchased the mat to help negate any excessive EMF exposure in our Apartment complex. Now we are concerned the mat is amplifying the frequencies during sleep? Thanks friend for any additional insight. Cheers!

  9. Teri R. Thompson says:

    What do you recommend if i travel a lot, as a routine supplement protocol? You mentioned hydrogen tablets but is this all? Also, i am going to be going on a big hike in high altitude soon (Everest base camp) and wonder what you would do before during and after to prepare for that?

  10. Nathan says:

    What is the recommended dosage for the supplements recommended by yourself & Dr. Mercola?

    -NMN and/or NAD

  11. Shiva4senate says:

    Politicians who understand real health and science and have no conflict of interest have to be voted in to stop legislation that will harm health. (Shiva Ayyadurai in MA will do exactly this, please consider an interview)

  12. Kevin Pierce says:

    I sleep on Clint Ober’s grounding mat and I live in New Jersey. I’m confused about whether geopathic stress or dirty electricity is going to affect this mat when I’m sleeping. Should I still sleep on this mat?

    1. Kyle Martin says:

      This is what I’m wondering as well. I know Clint has presented information and shown studies to explain that this isn’t the case. I believe Ben has discussed this same question as well. I’m confused now as well because when he Dr. Mercola mentioned the “dirty” electricity part, Ben didn’t say anything.

      I’ve experienced nothing but positives since grounding and sleeping on a mat. Energy, sleep, healing have all increased. What is the true consensus? Is it bad long term to sleep on the mat?

      1. Ray says:

        Dido. Hopefully Ben does a deep dive on this soon.

        1. Matt Wilson says:

          I’ve heard Jack Kruse day that grounding mats have an EMF issue also. I thought it was because they are made of metal and if you live in a city near lots of non-native EMF, you’d be attracting it to you, just like wearing metal jewelry. Ben also said recently that these things are suspect if you live in a city (which is too bad b/c so many of us bought through his affiliate link) but he didn’t say why, but maybe it comes through the ground somehow and up to your grounding mat.

  13. Matt W says:

    Great Podcast guys.

    I am a long haul pilot and keen for the NAD patches .
    Which brand do you use ?


  14. Mike Rhodes says:

    Ben, my Mom passed away December of 2018. She was an Naturopathic Doctor in Oklahoma City. What’s crazy is so many of the topics you discuss in your podcasts were things she would discuss with my brother and I in the early 2000s. Especially the issues with EMF. She would tell me to never set my laptop in my lap because it would mess with my twig and berries! Haha! some call it other things but I was always mindful even though I had no clue what she was talking about. Listening to your podcasts with Dr. Mercola have reminded me of the hundreds of conversations I had with my Mom about this stuff. So crazy that she was concerned about EMFs before anyone was talking about it. Thank you for going into detail about these issues and for helping me understand in detail all the things my Mom would discuss with me. She would have been a big fan of yours if she was still here today. When she passed away she had thousands of dollars worth of EMF protection devices around her house and office. I was fortunate to be able to use some of those in my house. My brother and I opened an organic juice and smoothie bar in 2013 and talk to customers on a daily basis about your podcast. It’s the only place I trust to send customers when they want to know more about certain health concerns. Anyways, thank you! Thank you for your honest review of products, devices, and supplements. You are helping thousands if not millions of people take control of their health. You really do care. Thank you for working so hard to help so many people. I’m extremely grateful for you. Lots of love your way, brother!

  15. marina says:

    Ben, you mentioned the NAD patch. Where can i source them? Thanks

  16. Matt says:…
    Quote: There is no consistent evidence to date that exposure to RF signals from wi-fi and WLANs adversely affect the health of the general population.

    1. John says:

      That’s funny. The FDA says the toxic heavy metal gadolinium used in MRI contrast does not cause adverse effects, even though it is retained for probably a lifetime. Even a child knows if you eat poison it is bad for you. Go figure.

      1. Yeah, unfortunately there’s a lot of flaws. They recently put out a “meme” with a picture of a horse poking fun at people who use ivermectin, misleading people to believe that medication is only for veterinary use. Dr. Tami Meraglia and I discuss the FDA here:…

  17. Brad says:

    When discussing the “Plants are killing us theory” (i.e, the Carnivore Diet or the Plant Paradox) please provide a balanced discussion. Specifically, you should inform the listeners of what the peer reviewed medical journal articles seem to indicate. I do not understand why these facts (arguably, the most important facts) are left out of the discussion when this topic is discussed.

    Almost all peer reviewed studies in medical journals show either a decrease in mortality or a decrease in cancer, heart disease, and / or diabetes with an increase in fruits, vegetables and nuts. Conversely, peer reviewed medical journal articles also tend to show an increase in mortality and an increase in diseases with high meat or poultry consumption.

    It should also be noted that the cultures with the longest life spans (i.e., The Blue Zones) eat a 95-100% plant based diet. Plants do not appear to be killing these people.

    In terms of potential benefits of a carnivore diet, there may be anecdotal reports of weight loss or studies showing an improvement in biomarkers. However, this does not mean such diets are safe for the long term. Unless and until there are several peer reviewed medical journal mortality or epidemiological studies supporting such diets, caution should be advised.

    With respect to carnosine, it might be useful for the listeners to know that non-animal forms of carnosine are available through supplements. I have been taking supplemental carnosine for more than a decade as hedge against low carnosine levels in vegetarians.

  18. Mark Testa says:

    Thanks and thousand of studies cell phone companies know about that cause cancer. Thousands and thousands. Seems exaggerated.

    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t thinks it’s good but some credibility would go far.

  19. Ryan Hutchins says:

    There are many places online that sell EMF blocking/reducing cell phone cases, is there any benefit to using one of these cases on my cell phone?

  20. Faisal M Fakih says:

    The discount code for the Kion aminos didn’t work

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