[Transcript] – The Electrolyte & Mineral Replenishment Strategy Closest To Human Plasma, How To “Bathe In Hydrogen”, Nasty Water Industry Myths & Truths & Much More With Robert Slovak.

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December 22, 2022

From podcast: https://bengreenfieldlife.com/podcast/robert-slovak/ 

[00:00:00] Introduction

[00:00:57] Podcast Sponsors

[00:05:35] Introduction

[00:08:07] Robert's Recent Spike Protein and His Morning Go-To

[00:14:23] A New Hydrogen-Rich Water Study

[00:36:03] Podcast Sponsors

[00:16:12] Hydrogen Hydrotherapy

[00:24:11] Misinformation and fear around hydrogen

[00:27:44] The history of terrain theory

[00:39:13] cont. The history of terrain theory

[00:42:55] Ben’s trip to The International Society of Percutaneous Hydrotomy, San Miguel, Mexico

[00:47:33] The types and uses of Quinton

[00:55:21] Other Robert’s anti-aging or longevity protocols

[01:05:09] A piece of advice for customers wanting to buy a water purification system

[01:11:56] End of Podcast

Ben:  My name is Ben Greenfield. And, on this episode of the Ben Greenfield Life podcast.

Robert:  You must respect what René Quinton said because it's so simple and so brilliant, “The only way life could have left the ocean was to take the ocean with it,” and you did. And, you're supposed to keep creating the conditions of the ocean; its composition, its balance of that periodic table of the elements because the ocean is the only known solution of the periodic table of the elements in the known universe. It's very special. I say God chose this.

Ben:  Faith, family, fitness, health, performance, nutrition, longevity, ancestral living, biohacking, and a whole lot more. Welcome to the show.

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It's obviously no secret that I'm in the water, and the quality of my water, and even some of the more fringe spiritual woo-woo-esque aspects of water and have been for quite some time. I, of course, have a father and a brother who are in the water filtration industry. I, myself, the same as you, not only drink water but I'm made up of a great deal of water in my body and my cells. And, I think it is underrated as one thing that people don't think about enough, I mean you know case in point, the people who are working out at the gym, eating a healthy diet doing all the biohacking and then drinking out of a plastic bottle on their way home from the health club or whatever. And yeah, that's just one little example but water can also be confusing, how to filter it, what some of the subtle energies in the water, a whole lot of considerations that go way above and beyond just get a water filter or a Brita and make sure you avoid plastics. There's a lot more to it than that. 

And, I've had a podcast before where I took a deep dive into a lot of this stuff; the best water filters and the best brands of bottled water and you're definitely going to want to listen to that show because my guest on today's show really laid it all out for us beautifully. And, his name is Robert Slovak. So, please make sure that you go to the shownotes for today's show at BenGreenfieldLife.com/ Slovak2. His name is spelled S-L-O-V-A-K. So, BenGreenfieldLife.com/Slovak2 because this is the second podcast I've done with Robert. And, that way, you'll be able to pair what you're about to hear with a whole bunch more about water filtration and minerals and hacking water, et cetera. You also get Robert's whole backstory, which in short is that he had a life-threatening illness. He was actually saved via special form of electrolyte replenishment, which has now become a worldwide phenomenon, this stuff called Quinton that he uses but he also now is an innovator in reverse osmosis, in bottled water production, and lab purification and hemodialysis and seawater desalination and microchip production, bottled water production, vending water, even spot-free car washes. So, this guy is the go-to guy when it comes to water.

Robert, welcome back to the show, man.

Robert:  Thank you, Ben. I'm very happy to be here. It's always nice to have one of the most, if not the most knowledgeable podcasters in the business of health.

Ben:  I don't know about that. I just get other people on who are knowledgeable, then channel their information.

I got to ask you this though, before we jump in, whenever I interview, I don't know, some super food hunter or something I always ask them what they put in their smoothie that morning. So, I woke up this morning and had some Quinton and some hydrogen tablets and a little bit of Adrenal Cocktail, which is a vitamin C blend from Jigsaw Health and I stirred that all up and had it out of a big glass Mason jar. And, that's how I start every morning as soon as I finish my coconut oil pulling. I spit it all out, I rinse the mouth and go straight to the mineral and hydrogen-rich water. I got to ask you, do you have a morning brew that's your go-to for your morning glass of water?

Robert:  We may get to this before the end of our podcast, and I don't even think you're aware that sometime in the last year, I was hit with a spike protein storm as doctors have concluded and ended up with a fairly serious case of myocarditis-like things, et cetera, even though I never tested positive for COVID. I didn't do any extensive antibody tests because everybody probably shows antibodies for COVID and of course, I never got a vaccination but I realized now that through certain associations and situations, one can get the same kind of attack and I did. There was the time, Ben, I'm going to guess as little as four months ago that I couldn't walk in one shot to my car 80 yards away.

Ben:  And, remind people real quick, I mean you're remarkably well-preserved. I remember when we went for a walk in Utah with a bunch of health experts, you took off a shot and you were walking like a madman and a lot of people see you and think you're 20 years younger. But, remind people how old you are just so they understand this whole spike protein deal and its seriousness.

Robert:  I'm 77.

Ben:  Okay, got it. So, the spike protein, and then what happened?

Robert:  And then, that had cardiovascular trauma and accelerated heartbeat, what myocarditis can involve, and lymphedema. I was a mess and people didn't think I was going to make it but I did a lot of things. I mean, the kitchen sink, I threw at this, and right now, I always start my day with Quinton Isotonic right now to really regulate my terrain. And, I'm going to be talking about that today. The terrain is everything and I'm going to kind of force this upon everybody. You've got to recognize this because it's more important than ever before. But, I do a lot of exotic things including energy devices and red and near-infrared exposure, early morning sun, grounding, like I said the kitchen sink, many herbal things, and colostrum, you name it. So, right now I can walk like you remember me walking, okay. I'm very happy right now that I have returned my physical capability, but I still have a lot of work to do.

Ben:  Yeah, okay. So, I guess the long story short then, the answer to my question about water that you're drinking in the morning, it sounds like a heck of a lot.

Robert:  I make cocktails with hawthorn berry, homeopathics and hawthorn berry herbal extracts.

Ben:  What's hawthorn berry?

Robert:  Hawthorn berry is probably the most established and relevant heart support herb.

Ben:  Okay. God, did you just start doing that since the spike protein thing?

Robert:  Yes. I mean, occasionally I would do hawthorn berry, but I never had a heart problem and my activity level was that of somebody 50 years old. So now, I'm supporting me with hawthorn berry and a ton of other things. I mean, probably one of the best things probably we won't get to this is the new Performance Cardio from Quicksilver. It probably made the biggest single leap in terms of a nutraceutical that I've taken. And, I do some energy things like CVAC, hyperbaric has been very good for me, et cetera.

Ben:  Okay, got it. That cardio one from Quicksilver, I was at RUNGA in Austin and they were handing that out and they were given to people like before they did the hyperbaric chamber, before they did some of the kettlebell workouts and some of the AirDyne workouts, they have actually super interesting, okay, yeah, it's Danshen root extract, which is a form of the salvia plant. Then, it's got the hawthorn in there that you just talked about, he shou wu, gingko leaf, myrrh, ginseng, Boswellia and cinnamon. It's interesting because that's what I like about Dr. Shade who runs that company. He uses some of the advanced delivery mechanisms, the lipophilic delivery mechanisms, but then he's also got this knowledge of ancient Chinese medicine. And so, he blends that ancient stuff with some advanced delivery mechanisms. And, I don't know, I really felt as though I could really push myself from a cardiovascular standpoint after using this stuff. I didn't wind up making it part of my protocol, but it's a pretty interesting supplement.

Robert:  Well, you saw me at Asprey's Biohacking Conference as I joined the Quicksilver booth to talk about Quinton Marine plasma. He goes, “What have you been doing since the last time I saw you? You can actually walk fast again.” And, I'm taking your Performance Cardio.

Ben:  The cardio perform. Yeah, interesting. Now, you're still using the hydrogen tablets too, right?

Robert:  Oh, that's a staple. That's almost close to breathing.

Ben:  Okay. Did you see the study because literally I just tweeted it out a few days ago and I was like, “Oh, I'm having Robert on the podcast. I should ask him about this.” It was a hydrogen-rich water study, the same as you get when you add these tablets to the water. And, the title was “Hydrogen-rich water consumption positively affects muscle performance, lactate response and alleviates delayed onset of muscle soreness after resistance training.” And, granted a lot of these journalists throwing conditioning studies, they're not that huge. I think this was a dozen men or so. 

But, really significant improvement in not only muscle function, but then reduce lactic acid formation and then way lower onset of muscle soreness. And, I don't know how far before the workout that they took the stuff but you and I covered this last time unlike a lot of antioxidants like synthetic vitamin C or synthetic vitamin E, the hydrogen doesn't blunt the hormetic response to the workouts like a selective antioxidant. And so, because I'm doing a morning workout a lot of the time that by starting off my day with this giant glass of the hydrogen, I'm probably getting some of those effects. But, this is the first time I've seen a performance study like this. Have you seen that?

Robert:   Oh, yeah, yeah, because you asked me to address it and I took a deep dive into it with both Tyler and Alex who know this business backward and forward. And, they made some comments, yes, this is very good, but even though muscle soreness and so on is actually better in hydrogen hydrotherapy, which is a new coming direction for hydrogen. I mean, hydrogen is a nutrient for all seasons. It's just going to be almost like quinton is.

Ben:  What's hydrogen hydrotherapy?

Robert:  Hydrogen hydrotherapy is soaking in hydrogen-infused water.

Ben:  Oh, like those bath tablets?

Robert:  Yes, like the bath tablets.

Ben:  You send me some of those. Don't you guys sell those at Water and Wellness?

Robert:  We do, yeah. It's called Relief. They're big tablets, three times bigger like a horse tablet but you bathe in them. And, I don't know if you remember. Well, I'm not even sure we covered it, but about four years ago, I think I told this story when we were discussing hydrogen in one of our past podcasts. Back at the time when I lived in California in Orange County, I went running with somebody like a Navy SEAL level athlete in the canyon in back of my home and it was an off-road very tough thing, and probably shouldn't have done it at 77 but I did. And, he got ahead of me and that bothered me. And so, I saw this, I knew that this big ruddy rocky hill was coming up and I thought, “Hey, I'm going to catch up to him there.” Well, I was out of a Roadrunner cartoon. I mean, I took a tumble down this long steep hill and I fractured both of my ankles, okay.

Ben:  Oh, geez.

Robert:  At first, the adrenaline took care of, I said, “Hey, Michael, I think I didn't even hurt myself.” But, when I tried to get up — so, he took me to the emergency room and blah, blah, blah. And, the guy goes, “You're 77 and you were doing this,” blah, blah, blah. I said, “Yes.” I mean, I feel comfortable doing it, but I did something stupid. So, this is before I ever even thought of soaking my feet in hydrogen. But, when I came home in a wheelchair with crutches, the first thing I did was, well, I'm going to stay home for at least five days and I'm going to keep my feet in this little plastic box. And, I'm going to keep the water cool to slow down the release of hydrogen. I put 30 little tablets in it. There was no rules at the time.

Ben:  Yeah.

Robert:  And, I will tell you that after two days of not even being able to take a step on my feet, I was walking in the complex that I lived in.

Ben:  Interesting.

Robert:  And, in six days, I was jogging lightly in that complex.

Ben:  Wow, with the fracture and everything, huh?

Robert:  Went back to the doctor and goes, “What are you doing?” Okay, and the rest is the fun part of the story. But, that showed me, holy mackerel, have I just discovered something for myself? And now, there's a great study I have and maybe you can arrange for me to — I'm offering your audience some really neat files and folders and resource information if you want to make it available to them on your site.

[00:19:25] More on Hydrogen se and its effects

Ben:  Yeah. The hydrogen — I remember when you sent me those tablets, I had wondered about the absorption and then I realized, well hydrogen is incredibly small molecule. I wouldn't see an issue with the absorption of it, but I looked it up and I couldn't find that many studies but I found two interesting things I wanted to learn by you. 

One was the whole skin appearance like skin blotches, lipofuscin I think that is called, and then dermal cell turnover seems to be improved. And, this was a six-month protocol where they were literally, I think, using the bath almost every day. But then, they also saw some really interesting things with fasted blood glucose and oxidation and things that I wouldn't necessarily expect to see via like a transdermal absorption. And so, it is interesting. I don't think it's that convenient to have to take a bath in this stuff every day. But, for me, for example, Robert, I do a magnesium salts bath once a week. And, when you send me the hydrogen, I would just put it in the bath, I do the red light, I do the magnesium salt, usually some essential oil. But, that was interesting and they even showed a little bit of a reduction in visceral fat. So, there's something going on with the bathing even though it hasn't really become a staple in my protocol, again, because I don't want to be that biohacker who's living his life in a cold tub and a hydrogen bath all my life.

But, the other thing that was interesting was I found this device. I wanted to ask you about it. It's called a Q-Spa and you put it into the bath and it supposedly makes hydrogen. I know another guy named Max Casa who's been using it in the float tanks that he designs. What do you think about bypassing the tablets and just putting a device in the bathtub that automatically makes the hydrogen for you?

Robert:  Well, I don't know. Certainly, the tablets can make a higher concentration and driving force for hydrogen than the device that's making it. I'd presume it's making it electrolytically, right?

Ben:  Yeah. I think that's the way it works. I'm not 100% sure. But, because you're not —

Robert:  Is it battery-operated?

Ben:  Well, it's submerged in the water and because I'd seen it once. I used to have a float tank and I got rid of it because it was too much upkeep. But, Max had put one of those in the float tank and all you did was you just put it underneath the water, you press the button and it supposedly produced 1,900 PPG or PPB hydrogen-rich water. 

Robert:  The 1,900 ppb is 1.9 PPM, which is basically close to the saturation of hydrogen at atmospheric pressure, okay?

Ben:  Yeah, yeah, interesting.

Robert:  But, the tablets can make far more than that, three-four five times that.

Ben:  Wow. Okay.

Robert:  And, of course, you have to account for the dissipation of the hydrogen into the atmosphere. So, I just kept throwing tablets in. At that time, there were no rules.

So, I have this research report from Serbia, it's a case report, “Acute hydrotherapy with supersaturated hydrogen-rich water for ankle sprain in a professional athlete,” blah, blah, blah. It's very good study and I'm going to send it to you when I'm done.

Ben:  Okay, cool. Interesting.

Alright, so there's all sorts of little areas that we could delve into from the hydrogen bathing to the to the Quinton, which we kind of exhausted on the last topic. But first, let me ask you. Since we're on the hydrogen topic right now, is there anything new besides adding hydrogen to your bathing water that you think should be addressed on the hydrogen front?

Robert:  You actually mentioned it and there's also another intermediate tablet called H2 Beauty, okay?

Ben:  Okay.

Robert:  And, H2 Beauty is another tablet that we make specifically for this kind of masks that women use. And, they put various beauty solutions on it and cover their face and relax and so on. But, this is for soaking those masks in a hydrogen-rich solution.

Ben:  Okay. Wait. So, is this for the face? I don't quite understand.

Robert:  It's primarily, yeah, for the face and complexion and so on. 

Ben:  What would you do with it? You're actually making a solution that you apply to the face?

Robert:  You put X amount of tablets in the prescribed amount of water and then when its reaction is over, you soak this. I mean, these are beauty masks that women put beauty solutions on and so on. And, men too, of course, and you soak it in whatever the solution is. It could be our mint oil or whatever, but this is hydrogen and it delivers the hydrogen to the epidermis. So, it's great.

Ben:  Now, one other thing about the hydrogen, I've been contacted by a few people recently or concerned about whether or not hydrogen tablets have fillers or binders or other crap in them. And, I think there's this rumor going around that if you're drinking hydrogen, you might be drinking toxins or something like that. Have you heard any of that?

Robert:  Well, yes. This kind of started with Greg the Hydrogen Man, okay?

Ben:  Greg the Hydrogen Man.

Robert:  Greg the Hydrogen Man. And, he has put out more misinformation and toxic information.

Ben:  It sounds like a superhero, the Hydrogen Man.

Robert:  Yeah. He sells the Lourdes Hydrogen Machine, one of the first machines that uses electrolysis. Maybe the newest one uses PEM technology to get hydrogen into the water at 1.6 PPM. So, he represents that. And, we have the most intense quality assurance and the product is a new dietary ingredient approved by the FDA and it's been through everything. Every batch is tested for toxins. And, there's no fillers in hydrogen tablet. There's things to make it work only really that one, they create a intermediate slightly acidic solution to make the reaction go between elemental magnesium and the water, which produces hydrogen gas plus a weak solution of magnesium hydroxide. And then, as that reaction proceeds, the solution goes to an alkaline pH. And, that's it, it's fairly unglamorous but extremely difficult to make the tablet.

Ben:  Okay. So basically, why would people be spreading this rumor about fillers? Has the water actually been tested? Has anybody done like dissolved hydrogen and tested the water or something like that to see?

Robert:  No report. He even spread the rumor that our product had been rejected or canceled from being sold in Japan. And, we never even approached selling it in Japan, okay? I mean, we are at a loss and we're dealing with that situation as it needs to be handled in another realm.

Ben:  Okay. And then, a quick reminder for people who are listening who I don't recall the exact amount of time, but when you dissolve these tablets in the water, you should drink the water pretty soon after the tablets have dissolved, yeah?

Robert:  Yeah. So, I would say because this new generation of tablets that's been out for more than a year and a half actually creates 20- to 50-nanometer nanobubbles, okay, which is an incredible feat in itself. Nanobubbles are very, very stable. So, I think for the ultimate concentration, you should do this and drink your, whatever, 12 to 14 ounces per tablet in under five minutes.

Ben:  So, obviously, Robert, we've geeked out on water and on Quinton, and like I mentioned, folks go to BenGreenfieldLife.com/Slovak2, Slovak the number 2, that can hear more about this mineral that you found, the whole story of your threatening illness. It's fascinating, but obviously, we've covered that before. We don't necessarily have to revisit how you restore and maintain your biological terrain using these little plasma elements in the form of Quinton.

Robert:  That's what I would have said, Ben, but this last weekend and a half ago in Scottsdale, Arizona, I was invited to speak as a keynote at the Heart Quest Conference. It was a kind of elite conference of virtually only practitioners. Heart Quest is the company, the leader in heart rate variability measurement. I'm a big fan of heart rate variability. I've seen what it did. And, it was Dr. Michael Kessler owns this company. So, at the conference, I was going to give them a review of the terrain and the title was “The Terrain Is Everything.” And, I decided on this thing to go right back to the origin of the terrain. And, doctors have just as many of the great physiologists of history, I'm starting with Claude Bernard, the Father of Physiology, Antoine Bechamp, and the guru of all physiologists, Alfred Pissinger who lived during our time. They spoke in great detail about the origin of the terrain and how we inherited it from evolution in the sea. Okay. And, this sometimes could be a sensitive subject for you in terms of evolution, but —

Ben:  Well, I believe in evolution, I just don't believe that the world occurred to revolution. But nonetheless, that's okay. Go ahead.

Robert:  So anyway, I started at the beginning and these doctors had never known, none of them, except one guy. I mean, a brainiac guy, who also gave a great talk on the terrain and that your terrain is a fluid and a matrix of proteoglycans and complex web that your cells live in. I mean, this is their home just like the home of evolution was the sea for 2.6 billion years before life left the sea. 

And so, these people never made that connection before and they just went crazy over this presentation because it all came clear. They had forgotten the terrain and its meaning and what all the people wrote about the terrain. The terrain, which was introduced in 1850 by Claude Bernard, and then that terrain versus The Germ event between Anton Bechamp and Louis Pasteur in the 1870s. This was the defining point for medicine. There was a war kind of of the minds between Claude Bernard and Antoine Bechamp who said, “Hey, your terrain determines if you get a disease. The state of your terrain determines what diseases you get,” blah, blah, blah. And, Louis Pasteur said, “No, all the known diseases in the body are caused by microbes and et cetera.”

So, this war went on, and then it's the famous thing that Pasteur supposedly recanted when he was getting very, very old and saw it. The terrain won out, but what changed it was when the [00:31:15] _____ decided to get into medicine in the late 1800s. And, this is when the Rockefeller Foundation and the petroleum, its petroleum interest decided to own pharmaceutical medicine, to begin pharmaceutical medicine.

Ben:  Okay.

Robert:  And then, they used a report called the Flexner Report, it's fascinating. And, this was the fake news of the early 1900s that set the stage for the American Medical Association, which then was the demise of natural medicine as it was known. And, this is what we live under now. We live under the pharmaceutical giants and their dictates and their mostly fake medicine.

So, I presented this and there were actually two female doctors who wept upon hearing this connection between the sea and our terrain and we have to. And, I tell them and I tell your audience, you have to respect that your bioterrain, which runs the show of your body, which allows you to live out of the ocean when you left the ocean 450 million years ago, when our species left 450 million years ago, you must respect what René Quinton said because it's so simple and so brilliant, “The only way life could have left the ocean was to take the ocean with it,” and you did. And, you're supposed to keep creating the conditions of the ocean; its composition, its balance of that periodic table of the elements because the ocean is the only known solution of the periodic table of the elements in the known universe. It's very special. I say God chose this.

Ben:  Is that why the Quinton tastes so much like ocean water? I'll give it to people and they're like, “Oh, it tastes like seawater.”

Robert:  It's harvested from a plankton bloom, a very special place. It's maintained under the most fastidious care until it is put into those glass ampules. It is also sterile and apyrogenic. So, this has been used throughout the entire 20th century as a medicine in the Physicians' Desk Reference called The Vidal of Europe. And, it was an esteemed solution because Quinton was pre-antibiotics and there are only potions and things available in the early 1900s. 

So, Quinton was used in these 69 marine dispensaries as they call them and they administered in every way you can imagine by injection, by IV, et cetera. This is what was used for cholera, tuberculosis, syphilis, gastroenteritis, which I had gotten in Brazil, in the wilds of Brazil, and it saved my life and why I'm doing this now talking about it. Quinton allows us to maintain the marine inheritance of the ocean on a daily basis. It is from birth till death. In fact, pre-birth, preconception till death that Quinton or some equivalent of it should be used. You must have the periodic table, Ben.

Ben:  Okay.

Robert:  Your audience must know this. It's not just some mineral solution from the inland sea or Celtic Sea Salt, et cetera. It has to be the ocean. It has to be the right place in the ocean. It has to be a plankton bloom. It has to be from the zone of biosynosis. And, it has to be prepared fastidiously under refrigeration in glass piping until it gets in those ampules.

Ben:  So, we got this phytoplankton colonies in the ocean.

Robert:  Phytoplankton is on the surface in the first 100 feet and zooplankton hangs out at 300 feet below the phytoplankton and ascends periodically into the phytoplankton and consumes it just like a cow goes out to pasture. I mean, it's a copy of God's design. So, they come out, and in this whole plankton bloom, which can be as much as a 100 kilometers across, you have this rich concentration of phyto- and zooplankton. And, their interaction with the periodic table of the elements from the sea create what we know as Quinton Marine plasma.

Ben:  Let's talk nicotine, shall we? Everybody knows it's great for focus. I mean, you don't have to get it from cigarettes, but it is actually a pretty potent nootropic. I mean, it occurs naturally out of plants, most obviously the tobacco plant. You can get it without all the carcinogens. And, the way that you can get it and get it naturally from a company that makes natural products for people who want to use nicotine to relax or focus or unwind after a long day or boost the energy in the evening without keeping you up all night. It's this company called Lucy. They're modern oral nicotine company and they make gum and lozenges and pouches that are super tasty for any adults who are looking for the best most responsible way to consume their nicotine. And, it's a new year, so why not start it out by switching to a new nicotine product you can actually feel good about?

What you do is you go to Lucy.co. You can use promo code BEN20. I recommend their pomegranate, 2 or 4-milligram gum. That's the one I dig. I chew a couple pieces a day right now and it's amazing. Lucy.co and use promo code BEN20 at checkout. That's Lucy.co, use code BEN20 at checkout. Warning this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical, so be careful, my friends. Lucy.co and use promo code BEN20. Be mindful, be careful, but enjoy that little higher than nicotine can give you because it's quite nice.

I'm pretty stoked because this is now something I can do when I'm on the go and it's based on this idea that the human body being mostly water. But, what you probably don't know is everything else in your body is 50% amino acids. That means basically water and amino acids are two of the most important things that you can have in your body. And, some amino acids are essential. You have to get them from food, from breaking down steak and chicken and eggs and everything else. But, this stuff called Kion Aminos is a plant-based full essential amino acids profile backed by over 20 years of clinical research with the highest quality ingredients; no fillers, no junk, rigorous quality testing, taste amazing with all-natural flavors. I got on the amino acids bandwagon way back when I was racing Ironman triathlon. Started with branch chain amino acids, realized those were wasted time, switched over to essential amino acids and it has been a game changer ever since.

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So, the phytoplankton are consumed by the zooplankton. The zooplankton then excrete all these amino acids, and antioxidants, and minerals, and polysaccharides, and fatty acids, and all this stuff that basically if you were to isolate it and you were to actually figure out a way to filter it, which is essentially what Quinton is bears a pretty close resemblance to human plasma like our internal terrain. 

And therefore, by consuming that or drinking it or doing like I did this morning, I broke open a couple of the ampoules of Quinton and put them into my water, that's like a nutrient-rich soup that supports our internal biological terrain, which if, I'll use a triggering word, if you're a germ theory denialist and you think that it's more important to maintain your internal terrain when it comes to disease prevention would be a way that you would actually support that terrain by literally drinking the fluid that most closely mimics human plasma. 

Robert:  Even more remarkable is that in 1904, René Quinton, the revolutionary biologist physiologist of his day, discovered or put this whole idea together that we're designed in the sea in 1897. But, by 1904, he wanted to have some pretty obvious proof that it was compatible with the animal species. And, a famous, famous event, he transfused six canines completely, their whole blood. And, many doctors are shaking their head in the audience, “Not possible, not possible,” but it's possible. There's a 500-page treatise called “ L’eau du Mer, Milieu Organique,” which means that your internal terrain and body fluids are the same as the sea. So, he transfused them and the dogs all survived and thrived. Two of the dogs had been sickly and their diseases were eliminated. 

So, this changed everything. That's what allowed Europe or encouraged Europe to come out with the 69 marine dispensaries in Northern Africa where cholera was rampant and in Europe. It was also for childhood tuberculosis which was in a small epidemic in the United States, Quinton was actually imported in the early 1900s into the United States as a treatment for childhood tuberculosis. Blood research institutes have proven that Quinton Marine plasma isotonic can replace whole blood.

Ben:  Would this be something that let's say a doctor was using an IV saline solution theoretically even though I think the cost would be astronomical for this to be adopted around the world, you could use Quinton instead of a saline solution for intravenous say rehydration protocols?

Robert:  It's done all the time. It's not technically legal in most states in the United States, but in the rest of the world, it's fairly common. That's why we sell Quinton in sterile apyrogenic liters as well.

Ben:  That's the Quinton that you can get in the big glass bottles?

Robert:  Yes. And, it's quite inexpensive. It's not much more than saline. The military is actually looking at marine plasma saline as the perfect battlefield blood plasma and whole blood replacement because it doesn't have to be stored, it can't have disease, it doesn't need to be refrigerated, it's perfect.

Ben:  What's interesting, you'll like this Robert, I just got back from San Miguel de Allende in Mexico and they actually have what's called the International Society of Percutaneous Hydrotomy.

Robert:  I'm a friend of Pierre Le Perot.

Ben:  Okay, cool. Because that percutaneous hydrotomy, I know it's a big word, I've never had it done but apparently you do injections of the Quinton isotonic sterile water and it generates new mucous membranes around the area where it's injected and it's used for herniated discs and relief of back pain and fibromyalgia and they're literally just injecting the stuff around joints with a needle. Almost the same way you do on a platelet-rich plasma or stem cells or something like that.

Robert:  Pierre Le Perot, we provide the Quinton for him for percutaneous hydrotomy.

Ben:  Oh, wow.

Robert:  And, he was once the head administrator of the Miami General Hospital and was retiring. He's a very sharp Cuban guy who's an expert in hospital care and all that. And, he was retiring with his wife in Mexico and decided, said “Honey, I'm going to take one last ski trip in Utah.” Okay. Well, he did and he had the accident of his lifetime and screwed up his back and he knew not to get a back surgery and went to the [00:44:21]_____ Institute in Nice, France, which is the institute that created this or perfected this treatment called percutaneous hydrotomy. And, he became healed and it was a revelation to him. So, he went down there and to San Miguel de Allende and started the pain center. And, he maintains that. I've sent a dozen people to him all of whom would wrap their arms around me when they see me because many of them had had surgery and it didn't work, et cetera, et cetera. Interesting that when I first met Tracy Duhs at an A4M —

Ben:  Yeah, the gal who runs the healing center down in San Diego yes.

Robert:  Yes, the healing center, but she's been a water technology water science student of mine for a long time and now she's a colleague. Her book called “Hydrate” is just coming out in a week or so. I mean, she has really amped up her level of knowledge about water and is this spectacular person. But, when she came to the booth I was in at A4M, there was a young man with her kind of soldierish-looking guy, handsome and so on, and he was walking with a cane. And, before I spoke to her, I reached out to him and said, “What's going on with you?” And, he said, “Oh, it was a military accident and nothing has worked and I feel I'm resigned to doing this.” And, he was in his, I think late 30s. I said, “You ever hear a percutaneous hydrotomy?” So, to make a long story short, he ends up even after he's had treatments and so on going down to San Miguel de Allende where his family lives of all things, and he went down there and got treatments. I think he went a second time, but he is like, “Robert that was one of the greatest gifts I received in my life.” So, people should be aware of that. That's a great thing to know. Pain center in San Miguel de Allende.

Ben:  Good excuse to go back to that place. It was one of the coolest cities in Mexico I've ever been to. One of the coolest cities in the world I've ever been to. So, add that to your bucket list folks for a cool place to visit.

Now, one last thing regarding the terrain theory. Correct me if I'm wrong because I might be remembering this incorrectly, but didn't Louis Pasteur, the father of modern pathology and the guy who really did a lot for us regarding germ theory, didn't he admit later on in life that the microbe was less important than the terrain or something like that?

Robert:  Yes. Actually, there was another guy that also did, it was one of the guys in medicine too. I can't remember who it was at the time, but I confirmed that Pasteur and another physiologist of the day also recanted and said, “We recognize the terrain.” But, by that time, Louis Pasteur had been bought off and the rest was like a Fauci.

Ben:  Okay, got you.

Regarding Quinton, just a few kind of usage type of questions. There's a few different kinds. There's the super salty one, which I think is called the hypertonic and then the other one's called isotonic, I believe. Is it true that you're supposed to take one for a more energetic feeling earlier in the day like the saltier one and the less salty one later on in the day?

Robert:  Yeah. I mean, that's part of it but think of health conditions. There's one philosophy that the isotonic is the medicine, the hypertonic is the nutrient, okay? So, because isotonic has immediate access to restoring and rebalancing the composition of the bioterrain, the composition being the periodic table of the elements in precise proportions, it does it faster than the hypertonic does. So, when someone is under a health condition, in general, there are exceptions, but in general the isotonic is preferred.

Ben:  Okay.

Robert:  And, you would take, if you were under serious health conditions, two to even four for certain serious conditions would be called for. And also, when I told you I spoke at the Heart Quest Conference and that was put on by Dr. Michael Kessler about, I don't know, I think it was about seven years ago, he called me on the phone the Sunday morning and said, “Is this Robert Slovak?” I go, “Yes.” He goes, “I'm Dr. Kessler. Do you know who I am?” I said, “No.” And, he said, “Do you know I have just discovered something with my heart rate variability? Do you know that in every patient I have seen,” his wife is a doctor too, “that we have seen, we discovered that even one ampule of isotonic can shift someone from sympathetic to parasympathetic in less than 10 minutes.” I'm going, “Holy mackerel,” that blows my mind. And so, he became a fan of Quinton and asked me to be the keynote speaker and go through the terrain, et cetera, et cetera. But, I think he came just for everyone's information. They just announced a brand new super advanced heart rate variability device. So, it's something to look into and it's called Heart Quest. That's the company.

Ben:  Heart Quest. Okay, I'll have to look that up. Do you know if that's a wearable or strap?

Robert:  Yes. And, I really didn't get into it because I own one of the original Heart Quests, and this new one has a portable add-on thing that the patient can wear. And, I don't know if it transmits back to the base station or collects data and then you download it.

Ben:  Okay. Alright, got it. The volume that one would consume ideally, let's say somebody is listening to this and they want to try Quinton, what would be the ideal gold standard use for something like this just for general health or longevity?

Robert:  For two to three months maybe. If you are as almost we could say most people now are experiencing some diminishing of their health experience, I would start with two ampules per day for two to three months.

Ben:  Okay. Alright, got it. Unless you're doing the percutaneous hydrotomy and figuring out how to inject it into your joints, so I'm sure there's some biohacker listening and is going to do that, you know, but proceed with caution, be careful with needles.

Robert:  It is fairly common now to administer some of the new nutraceuticals NAD, AMPK, et cetera, glutathione with Quinton Marine plasma, but it's not something we can discuss because the pharmaceutical companies have been gunning for Laboratoire Quinton, which is the 126-year-old company started by René Quinton and it's still in existence and going strong. And, that company was in trouble in the mid-1970s, where it was originally made in Paris, when France elected after experiencing Quinton and what it could do for 75 years, by then, France elected to give Quinton to all of its citizens free of charge. 

Ben:  Wow.

Robert:  I mean, how is that an endorsement for help?

Ben:  I don't know. I don't see that happening in the U.S. anytime soon, but —

Robert:  Well, yeah. And, they didn't get very far either. The pharmaceutical cartel immediately reacted and with their influence passed laws with the pharmacopoeia of Europe that anything that was injected — and Quinton was used in hospitals and IV and most of the work was done with subcutaneous injection. They passed a law that anything that was injected had to be heat-sterilized. You can imagine what would have happened there. And, it put Quinton laboratories in the background for the next 25 years when in 2004, when I actually discovered Quinton in Brazil, France the country held 100-year symposium honoring the humanitarian and scientific contribution of René Quinton. And, all the schools of Quinton showed up and delivered over this week-long thing seminars and training, presentations, et cetera. And, they issued an entirely new paradigm of the oral use of Quinton. Because for the past better part of a century, it was typically injected, IV'd, et cetera. And now, they went back and they figured out that the oral protocols were just as valid. Not in treating cholera, you would probably have to still inject subcutaneously.

Ben:  Now, what about these sachets that aren't in glass but they're kind of more travel-friendly sachets? One says 3.3 on the front of it and then I have another one that says 0.9. Is that the same as the hypertonic versus the isotonic? I assume the hypertonic would be the 3.3.

Robert:  Yes. And, the iso 0.9 and those, think of that as just still being able to effectively maintain the composition of the terrain in terms of its periodic table in the right proportions. But, this is not for the heaviest use in treating health conditions.

Ben:  Okay.

Robert:  You should go to the ampules. And, there's lots of energetic explanations for this. It's much more complex a substance.

Ben:  It's much more complex. Is that because it's in glass or some other reason?

Robert:  No, they're both the same, but I'm just saying in general Quinton is much more complex. So, it has a hundred plus micronutrients in it, anti-fungals, it’s natural from the sea. So, it's got this plethora of micronutrients that have many kinds of functions. It's got RNA fragments, DNA, et cetera. Very, very complex, not just the minerals. But, those things are much more delicate. So, while the minerals are never going to go away, the sachet is fine. But, over time, those micronutrients can only be protected in a glass ampule, and René Quinton do that.

Ben:  Okay, alright. That's good to know.

Alright. So, you mentioned a couple of conferences that you were at the like Bulletproof conference and the A4M, which is the American Academy for Anti-Aging Medicine. I know you get around and you talk to a lot of folks and I like mentioned earlier, at 77, you're remarkably well put together. And so, I'm curious for you, what are some other things that you've discovered and implemented into your own, whatever you want to call, anti-aging or longevity protocol as far as staples whether it's based on what you're doing with your water or anything else that you think people would really benefit from that might fly under the radar or things that you've discovered lately that you're super excited about in your travels and your learnings?

Robert:  I think for me, the staples really are Quinton and hydrogen and alkalizing my body and all the basic nutrients, the natural vitamin C, et cetera, et cetera, is part of my world. But, I have become, let's say for now, distracted by energy medicine and various therapies that are more exotic like CVAC and hyperbaric, et cetera. So, I'm exploring that largely because I have an uphill challenge still to go and deal with some issues in my health.

Ben:  Yeah. And CVAC, by the way, some people might not know what that is, but it's cyclic variation in altitude conditioning. It's essentially you think of it as though you're going from the tippy top of a mountain down to sea level over and over again while inside of a pod-like device. And, there are supposedly some pretty significant effects on things like cardiovascular health and oxygenation when using it. And, it's a little bit different than a hyperbaric oxygen treatment like an HBOT chamber, it's more like hypobaric hypoxia because you're kind of like depleting the muscles when you're at that super high altitude. But, I know a lot of people even I don't use a CVAC, a lot of people will kind of combine that with HBOT or exercise of oxygen therapy and kind of have different times during the week where they're at extreme hypoxia and then also hyperoxia. The thing with the CVAC devices though is, from what I understand, home versions of that aren't readily accessible. You have to go to a clinic to use a CVAC, right?

Robert:  Yes, yes. They're a couple hundred thousand dollars, so not many people have them in their home.

Ben:  When it comes to energy medicine, are you doing anything with pulsed electromagnetic field frequencies or anything frequency-wise?

Robert:  I'm a big fan of PEMF. I use it almost daily. I also have something called The RASHA. I don't know if you're familiar with that.

Ben:  One of my clients has The RASHA and it's kind of crazy. Explain to people.

Robert:  Well, The RASHA is a scalar device that delivers information to the body at a quantum level and a scalar level. And, there is quite a lot written on it. The presentations are quite impressive. And, my brother gave some assistance who was — my brother was a physicist and quantum physicist and biomedical engineer, he gave some assistance to his name is Jared [00:58:48] _____, and they collaborated to produce this very advanced energy device that delivers many forms of information including all the rife frequencies. And, it delivers them in a scalar and in a tactile and an audio format all at once. So, you're wearing earphones, you're sitting in a special chair, and then there's the device that's putting out a scalar field of information.

Ben:  Yeah.

Robert:  So, it's very complex, very high-end.

Ben:  It's almost like a sound healing table mixed with what I think are electromagnetic frequencies, but then the sound is more like an infrasound frequency where it's traveling through your body. So, it's almost having your own sound bath. I have no clue how much a thing costs. It's pretty sexy looking. I don't imagine it's inexpensive.

Robert:  Think of it from 50,000 on up. I have one of these that I use on a regular basis. And, I mean, it deals with many different conditions like geopathic stress. And, it has a menu and I'm using it for lymphedema. It has a very big dictionary so to speak of pathologies.

Ben:  Kind of like the BioCharger, probably a little bit more powerful, but there's a whole host of different recipes.

Robert:  It's in the same realm as a BioCharger.

Ben:  Yeah. And, there's another newer thing. You may want to look into this. I just recently did a podcast on it. It's from a company called Ammortl, A-M-M-O-R-T-L. I'll link to it in the shownotes, but it's a chamber is like the high high-end version of it, which blends light vibration, magnetics, molecular hydrogen, music, meditation, breathwork, and even some spiritual intention practices. Just lay on this bed. I haven't been on it yet, I think they have a prototype in Denver I'm going to try soon. But then, they have a home unit that uses what's called a multi-wave pulsed electromagnetic field and it's fascinating. You should listen to the podcast I did with these folks. And again, I'll link to it in the shownotes, but it's called the Ammortl made by the Bioenergetic Institute in Lexington. But, that one's pretty interesting as well if you're under electrical medicine.

Robert:  Lexington, Kentucky or?

Ben:  Yeah, they're based in Lexington, Kentucky. But, I think they're just now taking pre-orders for their unit. It's not inexpensive. I think it's $12,000 to $15,000 unit just like the basic home unit and you hold a glass kind of globe-looking thing as it does a sweep of your whole body and then kind of a specialized form of PEMF. And, it's very interesting in terms of a whole-body energy medicine treatment. So, that one would be right up your alley too to check out.

Robert:  I wonder if we can if you're ready and you have the time if we can say a few things about what the consumer is facing in the water business because it's really concerning me.

Ben:  Okay. We got about 10 minutes max here to keep going. So yeah, go ahead.

Robert:  Water is really becoming a big issue in this people learn more and get into more serious studies and biohacking and so on. We realize that water is a big deal and the contaminants in the water aren't getting better. I mean, it's getting worse now with the new studies on PFASs, which are the polyfluoroalkyl substances that comprise the non-stick — 

Ben:  Why frogs are becoming female or whatever.

Robert:  Yes, Scotchgard, all that stuff. I mean, it's everywhere. It's far worse than even glyphosate, okay? Everybody in the water business is taking advantage of this and people just go out, they don't have a clue on how to source equipment. And, there's some things it's now I'm talking about drinking water here. Point of entry is beyond the scope of this presentation, for sure, because it's much more complex as your father knows very well and he's very qualified to discuss point of entry systems with people. With that said, from the point of entry thing, the point of use, which means point of use, POU, is something that's in your home or office that supplies drinking water and that drinking water comes from purifying the local water supply or your well water, et cetera, et cetera.

And, what happens is that when people go on the internet, which is where most things are bought these days, they are romanced into a state of misinformation and hype, et cetera. And, they just tend to believe that “Oh, here's our product that can remove a hundred things from the water.” Well, in our world, there's about 85,000 chemicals, each of which has a unique and potential toxicity. And, about a hundred of those are monitored by United States Public Water Systems. There's about 200 that Congress isn't releasing, 200 contaminants because it's not that they're hiding it from anybody, these are less discussed contaminants but they're withholding issuing them to the EPA that, “Hey, our municipal water has to deal with these too. But, if they release them, no one could afford the water.” Okay? Because they require such exotic technologies, et cetera, et cetera, to remove them. And, PFAS is one of them. It can be found in almost everyone in the world.

Ben:  Okay.

Robert:  It can be found in babies, fetuses, you name it. Every waterway you can find PFASs and PFOSs. So, this concerns me and people are buying things just on the basis that these things will be removed by this internet supplier’s product. I'm going to give people some rules. 

First thing you do when you say, “Honey, I want to buy a water purification system to make drinking water in our house,” please go to the EPA site for every water supplier in the United States that has more than 25 people. And, you simply put in the “internet water quality report for Lexington, Kentucky” say, whatever your town is. Okay?

Ben:  Okay.

Robert:  And, that will come up. I mean, 99% of the time, it will come up with something. And then, this will come up and it will discuss where you get your water from and issues and contaminants. Now, the average consumer homeowner is not going to understand a lot of this, but you must have this as at least a guideline for things, especially heavy metals, synthetic organic chemicals, which include all the pesticides and PFASs and PFOSs, volatile organic chemicals, which basically involves every parole petroleum derivative, things that easily evaporate into the air, disinfectants, chlorine, chloramine, chlorine dioxide, total trihalomethanes that are produced from disinfectants reacting with natural organic matter. Those are things that cause miscarriages, et cetera, radionuclides, and fluoride. These are the key things that you want to make sure that your device can remove. And, there's very few that can and for many are called but few are chosen.

Let's say you see a convincing website that says our thing can remove all of these contaminants, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and the claims, I'd have to say that 70% plus of all the websites make false claims on drinking water appliances. What I want to guide you on is, please, you must assure that any device you buy is tested to NSF/ANSI and C Standards and that you double check that that report of the testing. And, the testing is expensive. I've tested products for 35 years and was also on the original team of 12 people who wrote these standards for all these tests and they're tough and they're expensive. To approve for all the contaminants, one device $40,000 to $50,000.

Ben:  Wow.

Robert:  And, most people who make these systems don't want to pay that.

Ben:  Yeah.

Robert:  So, here are the three testing laboratories. If it's not one of these three testing laboratories that are certified by NSF and ANSI, then you want to stay away from those products.

Ben:  Okay, NSF or ANSI.

Robert:  NSF/ANSI. So, those things are one NSF laboratory in Ann Arbor, Michigan, IAPMO, I-A-P-M-O, in Ontario, California, and the Water Quality Association in Lisle, Illinois, their Gold Seal program. These, if it doesn't appear in one of those entities' conclusive test reports on the performance of a particular model that you're considering, you don't want to continue to consider it.

Ben:  Okay. What I'll do is in case people didn't remember all the alphabet soup of letters, I will add all of that to the shownotes. Yeah, you could send it to me too. I'll put anything you send over to the shownotes, Robert, at BenGreenfieldLife.com/Slovak2.

We're getting super close, needing to wrap up here, but would those be the basics that people need to be aware of?

Robert:  Yes. And, that things like PFASs and PFOS, there's only two methods that can remove all categories of contaminants: distillation plus activated carbon and reverse osmosis plus activated carbon. Don't let anybody convince you of anything else. If you want to be assured that all categories of contaminants are reduced to a safe level, that's it. Those are the two combinations of technologies.

Ben:  Okay.

Robert:  The announcement I want to make is, does your audience know to contact WaterandWellness/Greenfield at the end?

Ben:  Yeah. Well, they don't contact but they can visit WaterandWellness.com/Greenfield. And, I think that's where we've got some discounts for folks and everything. And then, can people order if they're in Canada as well?

Robert:  Yes. And, I want to give you that Canadian website and that is VitaExpress.ca/Greenfield.

Ben:  VitaExpress.ca/Greenfield. Okay, cool. And, that'll give people a discount as well.

Robert:  Yes. And, that's our distribution company and brand new in Canada. I can be reached at [email protected].

Ben:  Okay, alright. Say the email one more time.

Robert:  R-O-B-T then Slovak, S-L-O-V-A-K@waterandwellness, all spelled out, dot com.

Ben:  What I'll do, folks, just so you know. If you do have comments or questions or feedback and you don't feel like emailing Robert personally and just know that you respect people's inboxes, if you go to the shownotes at BenGreenfieldLife.com/Slovak2, you can also leave your questions, your comments and your feedback there. I'll also link to, in case you want a more expansive explanation of water filters and a big podcast we did on hydrogen and some other nitty-gritty details regarding water that go beyond the Quinton discussion that we had today, I'll link to all that as well at BenGreenfeldLife.com/Slovak2, Slovak then number 2.

Robert, thank you so much for coming on the show today, man.

Robert:  Very welcome. And, maybe next time, we can take out this new reality we're living in.

Ben:  Alright. Alright, sounds good, man. I love you and I'll talk to you later.

Robert:  Love you too. Bye.

Ben:  Alright, bye.

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When many people think about water, they just think about…water.

But knowing how to drink the right kind of water, what it means for your health, water filtering, and even how to “dose” water is a highly-nuanced topic.

Whenever I have a question or want to learn more about the latest advances in water technology, I turn to my friend, international water expert Robert Slovak. I've had Robert on the podcast three times in the past, on the following episodes:

After 40+ years as one of the world’s foremost water scientists, Robert co-founded the company Water and Wellness. Robert and his brother were pioneers in reverse osmosis technology development and all of its applications.

Robert's innovations include RO drinking water systems, spot-free car washes, bottled water production, laboratory purification, hemodialysis, seawater desalination, microchip production, bottled water production, water vending, and more.

When working in the very rural areas of Brazil in 2001, Slovak fell ill with a life-threatening illness. The indigenous people shared Quinton—a magical marine plasma with a history dating back to 1897. Amazed by the results and his lifelong love of natural health, Robert made it his mission to expand awareness of Quinton. Since then, Quinton has become a worldwide phenomenon. Robert is a regular guest on the international stage, has taught in universities, written books and magazines for the global water industry, and has been involved in some of the most advanced health companies to date.

This guy is a wealth of information on all things water, and you're definitely going to want to tune in and take notes if you want to learn as much as possible about water filtration, minerals, “biohacking” water, and much, much more!

During our discussion, you'll discover:

 -Who is Robert Slovak?…05:35 

-Hydrogen use and its effects…14:23

-Misinformation and fear around hydrogen…24:10

  • Greg the hydrogen man responsible for a lot of misinformation 
  • Lourdes hydrogen machine 
  • There are no toxins, no fillers in the hydrogen tablets 
    • Meets all the standards for dietary supplements 

-The history of terrain theory…27:44 

  • Heart Quest Conference  
    • Keynote speaker – The terrain is everything 
    • Connection between bio terrain and the ocean 
  • Dr. Michael Kessler
  • Dr. Kessler informed Robert that one ampule of isotonic can shift someone from sympathetic to parasympathetic in less than 10 minutes
  • 19th-century debate about the origin of disease – terrain or microbes 
  • Rockefeller Foundation getting into pharmaceutical medicine 
  • Quinton Isotonic (use code GREENFIELD to save 10%) 
    • Allows us to maintain the marine inheritance of the ocean 
    • Harvested from plankton bloom 
    • Pre-antibiotics 
    • Used for cholera, tuberculosis, syphilis, gastroenteritis 
  • The Vidal
  • The phytoplankton and zooplankton 
  • Quinton Marine plasma
  • René Quinton – the idea that your internal terrain and body fluids are the same as the sea 
    • Experiment with dogs 
    • 69 Marine dispensers 
  • L'Eau de Mer, Milieu Organique by Rene Quinton

-Ben’s trip to The International Society of Percutaneous Hydrotomy, San Miguel, Mexico…42:55 

47:31 The types and uses of Quinton…47:31

  • Isotonic (use code GREENFIELD to save 10%)
  • Hypertonic (use code GREENFIELD to save 10%)
  • HeartQuest 
  • Using Quinton for general health 
    • 2 ampules per day for 2-3 months 
  • 100-year symposium honoring the humanitarian and scientific contribution of Rene Quinton 
    • New paradigm – Quinton oral 
    • Glass ampules 

-Robert's other anti-aging or longevity protocols…55:21 

-A piece of advice for customers wanting to buy a water purification system…1:09:03 

-And much more…

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