The “Dr. Strange” Of Medicine & Biohacking: Methylene Blue, Stem Cells, Lasers, Earth, Air, Water, Fire & More With Dr. John Lieurance.

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My inspiring and intriguing guest on today's show – the great Dr. John Lieurance of Mitozen – is someone I consider to be the “Dr. Strange” of the medical and biohacking world.

Dr. Lieurance first joined me for the quite popular podcast episode The Crazy Future Of Medical Biohacking: Skull Resets, Suppositories, Nasal Sprays, Nebulizers, Sound Therapy & More…and later for The Shocking Truth About High-Dose Melatonin, Does Melatonin Supplementation Shut Down Your Own Production, How To Use Melatonin To Enhance Fasting & Much More.”

A naturopath and chiropractic neurologist at Advanced Rejuvenation, the founder of Out of Box Doc, author of Melatonin: Miracle Molecule, and crazy mad scientist formulator behind MitoZen, John is my friend and trusted medical adviser.

Dr. Lieurance and I recently announced the official launch of a brand new event that I'll be speaking at entitled Elements of Vitality, in Sarasota, Florida, taking place on Friday, December 2nd. The event is based on the premise of turning to the elements of air, light, water, and earth to overhaul and optimize full body, mind, and spirit health, including harnessing the magnetic healing frequencies of earth, benefiting from the power of photonic light and the sun, properly using potent oxygen therapies and ozone, how to create deeper hydration with water, and much more.

During our discussion, you'll discover:

-How to take Methylene Blue…06:01

-How to combine Methylene Blue with red light and other therapies…10:08

-Precautions when taking Methylene Blue, especially for those who are taking serotonin production regulators/inhibitors…18:26 

  • Francisco Gonzalez Lima cited 5 cases that had thymectomy receiving IV Methylene Blue in very high doses
  • FDA came out with a warning – do not take Methylene Blue in conjunction with SSRIs
  • Mayo Clinic retracted that warning: only when you have this surgery should you be careful
  • Canada has also removed this warning, but the FDA has not

-Remarkable benefits of MitoSkin…21:07

  • Melatonin-based skin cream MitoSkin (use code BEN to save 5%)
  • Dr. Lieurance beta tested the cream for a year before release and had incredible results
  • In general, dosing with melatonin during the day does not make you tired because it's the light that your eye gets that prevents the pineal melatonin from activating in the brain
  • Melatonin is the ultimate stress-resilient molecule and the most powerful antioxidant
  • There is a whole chapter in the melatonin book on skincare
  • Ben says it smells amazing!

-The best way to get started with Methylene Blue…23:47

  • Try Methylene Blue with sunlight or red light
  • Most people report that they feel quite amazing on Methylene Blue (use code BEN to save 5%)
    • Enhanced cognition, memory, attention
    • More robust exercise, able to lift more
    • Methylene Blue supports anything related to cellular energy

-VSELS (Very Small Embryonic-Like Stem) cells…24:23

VSELS or stem cells for regenerative medicine?…30:58

  • VSELS vs. stem cells
  • Why VSELS is the best option right now because it's from your own blood
  • Can be injected into different parts of the body by laser
  • Starting research on the inner ear
  • Lumomed therapy for hearing loss and Sunavae Inner Ear Rejuvenation
  • Laser treatment to the inner ear creates a rejuvenation effect
  • Korean ENT Dr. Shim, developed a device, Shimspot, to inject into the ear

-Can I have this treatment even if I don’t have any hearing-specific issues?…34:18

  • Go for the laser treatment, there’s no need for injections 

-How autonomic balancing increases HRV and simulates sleep…35:59

  • Using breathwork and mechanoreceptor activation through certain vibration patterns
  • Guided meditation with the device that creates mechanical stimuli
  • It's like exercising the autonomics; parasympathetic (melatonin) and sympathetic (cortisol)
  • There is this duality, and HRV is based on how balanced the systems are
  • Zen Nasal Spray (use code BEN to save 5%)
  • IRE’ Eye Activation Formula eyedrops (use code BEN to save 5%)
  • Boca Zen – similar to the Sananga eyedrops, the traditional Amazonian medicine that's used on the eyes to increase sensory perception (use code BEN to save 5%)

-Technology to activate the brain to modulate the stress response and increase HRV…39:42

  • A prominent scientist in this field has agreed to present the technology at the Elements of Vitality conference on December 2nd

-What is endo-nasal balloon adjustment?…40:39 

Elements of Vitality conference – The idea of the elements…45:59

  • The conference is a Return to the Elements event with a deep immersion in the healing powers of the earth, air, fire, and water
  1. Earth
    • Earthing and grounding, and the natural magnetic healing frequencies
    • The earth has a magnetic healing frequency called Schumann resonance which beats at 7.83 Hz
    • PEMF uses magnetic coils that penetrate the cells of the body, beneficial for longevity and vitality as well as assisting the body in recovering from stress and various health conditions
  2. Water
    • Water filters and water remineralization water as an energy or inflammation carrier
    • The solution to pollution is dilution
    • Liquid water is the element that makes life possible; remineralize to create deeper hydration
    • Water saturated with ozone (O3) can be a powerful means to drive signaling pathways that produce new healthier, stronger mitochondria leading to profound healing and rejuvenation
    • Ice baths and whole-body cryotherapy
  3. Air 
  4. Fire 
    • Sunlight is most beneficial to our energy production through our mitochondria
    • Explore CytoChrome and the pathways your cells use to produce energy and how these pathways can become supercharged with laser, red lights, and IR sauna.
    • How to use Methylene Blue in conjunction with red light

-A Day in the Life of John Lieurance…52:15

  1. What type of therapies does he have at his house? 
  2. Typical morning
    • Meditation and breathwork
    • Jacuzzi for a few minutes
    • Rebounder
    • Cold plunge and go back and forth between the jacuzzi and the cold plunge and alternating into the hot plunge as well the hot plunges at 112 degrees
  3. What is his creative outlet?
    • A new website called Art by Dr. John
    • I was showing in galleries primarily out in Maui and here in Florida
    • Getting into the studio and painting
    • Working on a book, It's All In Your Head, basically all about Endo Nasal
  4. What type of things is he experimenting with at home?
    • Intranasal laser – after taking Methylene Blue Bar
    • Agnihotra – Vedic tradition where they light a fire, chanting in the morning around sunrise and the evening around sunset; balancing to your energy centers within your body based on these frequencies
    • When John doesn’t have time to go out, he uses infrared lights
  5. What is his exercise routine?
    • Used to own a gym Super Slow Zone, pioneered by Ken Hutchins, who developed all of the Nautilus equipment
    • Blood Flow Restriction training to the super slow zone training
    • For cardio: Grizzly Bear intervals – high intensity, low duration
    • My stretching routine is basically sun salutations
  6. Running full sprint at the beach with my dog, an Australian shepherd named Lonnie
  7. Clinic:
  8. Advanced Rejuvenation in Sarasota, Florida
    • Chiropractic neurologist and also a naturopath
    • The clinic has a wide range of clinicians
    • Services
  9. What is Dr. Lieurance most excited about in the clinic?
  10.  Sleep routine and some things he finds to move the needle on improving sleep
    • Sleep is more important than diet and exercise
    • Melatonin: Miracle Molecule by Dr. John Lieurance
    • Red lights with Mito Lights for circadian rhythm 
    • No blue or green light because that activates the brain – wear blue light blocking glasses 
    • PEMF mat
    • Breathwork
    • Eat early at night and wake up really early
    • Not working on left brain activities to protect sleep 
    • Bed raised at about 10 degrees, and the air conditioning set cold at about 72 degrees 
    • No light intrusion, and also turn off all of my WiFi
    • The bedroom is painted with carbon paint, making it into a Faraday cage 
    • Phones put on airplane mode 
    • Experimenting with CBG

-And much more…

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6 thoughts on “The “Dr. Strange” Of Medicine & Biohacking: Methylene Blue, Stem Cells, Lasers, Earth, Air, Water, Fire & More With Dr. John Lieurance.

  1. Dave Fellows says:

    Can we get a link to the melatonin suppositories that Dr. John Lieurance mentions? Thanks!

    1. Dave Fellows says:

      Nevermind, found them:

  2. Mitch says:

    I was able to purchase the MB book but I’m not clear on how to access the book with my username/password provided

    1. Ben Greenfield says:

      Are you referring to the Methylene Blue eBook by Dr. John Lieurance? If so, you should be able to use code BEN to download it for free:

  3. sian olsen says:

    Aloha Ben & Team

    Pls hold an Elements of Vitality retreat on the Big Isle.
    Best place in the world to experience all 4 elements.
    Fire at Kilauea; air on Mauna Kea; the ocean, the jungle.
    Kalanimua would be a good start.
    Stayed there twice. Have no affiliation.
    Know you’ve spent plenty time in Kona, how about the Puna side ?
    Come visit again, and we’ll show you around, go on the boat I drive, SUP, etc.
    Also sent this request to Dr. Lieurance.

  4. Zinia says:

    Have you tried IV methylene blue?

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