Part 1 With Tom Digan: The Biggest Fitness Mistakes, The Perfect Exercise Plan For Healthspan & Lifespan, How Ben Greenfield Exercises (& His Workout Philosophy), Ben’s New Workout App & Much More.

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In this podcast episode, I get put in the hot seat just a bit by my guest Tom Digan, as he picks my brain about how to assemble the very best workouts and exercises to achieve the ideal combination of fitness, nutrition, and lifestyle tactics for both lifespan and healthspan…

…but I also get a chance to delve into his unique body of knowledge regarding the surge in home fitness trends and fitness apps.

After all, there are plenty of workout and fitness apps out there, but there's a reason that I recently partnered with Tom's company “Ladder” for the launch of my new training program Boundless, which is unlike any training experience I’ve ever created. Boundless on the Ladder app is a fully structured training program delivered to you fresh each and every week, utilizing my Minimum Dose Methodology, which maximizes cardiovascular endurance, strength, and stamina in the minimum amount of time, to help you burn fat, gain muscle, and get in the best shape of your life. Each week you’ll have 5 workout days, one active recovery and mobility day, and on Sundays, you’ll even get a special biohacking tip from me, all inside of the Ladder app. Every workout has guided movement videos and coaching queues as well, so you can master each movement and stay motivated.

You can download Ladder now in the iOS App Store. When you get it, you are not only getting an amazing workout program delivered conveniently to your phone, you’re also getting the benefit of real accountability and community. The Ladder app makes it super easy to not only chat with the other members of Team Boundless, but also send me one-on-one messages to ask me training questions, get nutrition tips, and keep me updated on your progress. This type of personalized fitness consultation and coaching with me usually costs thousands of dollars, but you can get full access to me and my training programs for only $60 a month by subscribing to Ladder.

So if you’re tired of planning your workouts, want to finally achieve an incredible physique, or you need the accountability of a community to get in shape, Team Boundless on the Ladder app is for you. Download Ladder in the iOS App Store now, join Team Boundless, and try your first week of workouts for free by clicking here.

So who is Tom?

Tom Digan is the Co-Founder & President of Ladder, a fitness technology company based in Austin, TX. Prior to joining Ladder full-time, Tom spent over a decade working in the hedge fund industry as a Partner at a $1B+ AUM (assets under management) investment firm located in New York City. Tom holds the Chartered Financial Analyst designation and was a Forbes 30 under 30 honoree. Ladder Teams is a social fitness experience for people who are passionate about fitness and need help planning and maintaining a progressive training program. With Ladder Teams, avid fitness-seekers can access a complete strength training program on their phone, learn from an expert coach, and engage with a community that shares a passion for fitness.

During my discussion with Tom, you'll discover:

-How Tom got involved with fitness and helped create the Ladder app…07:15

  • Began with 1:1 coaching online
  • Personalization was overhyped
  • Work with “star” trainers in a scalable fashion
  • Launched in the middle of the Covid pandemic

-The nuts and bolts of how the Ladder app works…11:12

  • Average price is $50/month
  • You lock in with one specific coach
  • Trainers include:
    • Ben Greenfield (Dr. Strange)
    • Reign Nel
    • Lauren Kanski
    • Bobby Maximus
    • Sam Tooley
  • Skews to strength training (conspicuously absent from the market when the app was launched)

-Ben's advice on how to feel good, look good, and live forever…18:05

-Common mistakes people make with training and/or recovery…41:45

-The best ways to test your biomarkers…57:35

-How to program your own workout…59:30

  • Equipment
  • Time limitations
  • What are your goals
  • Injuries: previous and existing
  • Desire for social sports

-The most enduring change Ben has made to his program over time…1:05:15

-The Boundless program on the Ladder app…1:10:02

  • Boundless program will be available on the Ladder app on September 19th
  • 7-day free trial

-And much more!

Click here for the full written transcript of this podcast episode.

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Do you have questions, thoughts, or feedback for Tom Digan or me? Leave your comments below and one of us will reply!

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16 thoughts on “Part 1 With Tom Digan: The Biggest Fitness Mistakes, The Perfect Exercise Plan For Healthspan & Lifespan, How Ben Greenfield Exercises (& His Workout Philosophy), Ben’s New Workout App & Much More.

  1. Brent says:


    Amazing all-encompassing podcast! What would be your recommendation for a blood test and DNA test?

    I’m 25, very into weight training, nutrition, and HRV/recovery using a whoop for the last 2 years. Looking to understand my genetics and check up on some bio markers.

    Referring to the podcast you did with Dr. Karim Dhanani back in Oct 2018, and the more recent one you did with Drs. Matt Dawson and Mike Mallin would you recommend The DNA Company, Wild Health, or Strategene? Side note: I live close to Lexington KY so Wild Health would be convenient.

    Also is there a superior blood test kit I should use to check testosterone, vitamin D, LDL-p, white blood cell count, as well as other markers mentioned in the podcast? In the past I have just used Quest, but was going to try before hearing this podcast. Would greatly appreciate your thoughts.

    Thanks for all the great info,


  2. Pandian says:

    Full transcript takes only to the part two transcript Ben,
    Where can I find part one?

  3. Jennifer says:

    I would also like to see the transcript for part 1. Thank you!

  4. Andrew says:

    Great podcast was really after a transcript of Part 1 there is some great info I was wanting written access to, but it goes to part 2 hope you can fix this, that would be greatly appreciated.

  5. Lorraine S Hudson says:

    Please go Android for non apple users!

    1. Lorraine S Hudson says:

      For the Ladder app!

      1. Blake B says:

        Send Ladder a note about that. There’s an email link on the footer of their website.

  6. Holger Leibinn says:

    Hi Ben – thank you so much for this awesome episode! I enjoy listening to your podcasts while I’m running or cycling.

    Anyways, just wanted to let you guys know that the link to the full transcript does not work. Maybe I am too impatient ;-)

    Please keep up your fantastic work. You made a real difference in my life. Greetings from Germany

    1. Holger says:

      …now the link to the full transcript goes to part 2…

  7. Ben Erlandson says:

    Is the program available if you want to download the workouts and use them with your phone on airplane mode or does it have to be streaming to work?

  8. Aaron says:

    Any discount for veterans?

  9. Gwenn Case says:

    Wondering when Ladder might be available on Android? Thank you!

    1. We'll have an announcement regarding ladder next week!

      1. Lorraine S Hudson says:

        Did Android get an app?

      2. Noah Kahn says:

        I second that, really would LOVE Ladder for Android, hope it comes out ASAP!

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