Everything You Need To Know About Amino Acids, Animal Vs. Plant Protein, How Much Protein You Need & Much, Much More With Kion’s Angelo Keely.

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I've been supplementing with amino acids a lot lately. I've actually upped my dose (for reasons discussed in this podcast) to 15-20g 3x/day!

And apparently – for muscle building, muscle maintenance, gut nourishment, joint support, appetite satiation and oh-so-many more reasons – so have many of you, as the Aminos supplement is easily the best-selling product over at Kion, my supplements company that I and Angelo Keely began in 2017.

On the podcast, Angelo and I talked plenty about the magic sauce of amino acids, along with our then brand new clean protein powder back in November of 2021. Bit since I've been using Kion Aminos to such great effect lately, I wanted to share once again what we talked about last year, because I know so many people have begun listening to the show since then.

So enjoy (and if you want to know even more about amino acids, click here to read a very comprehensive article about them).

Angelo Keely

Angelo Keely is the co-founder and CEO of Kion, an active lifestyle, supplement, and functional food company dedicated to helping people fully experience a joyful, active life by providing pure, energy-enhancing solutions. Angelo has a truly diverse and unique background having put himself through college as a professional musician—beatboxing, rapping, and drumming.

During our discussion, you'll discover:

-Ben's desire to make the Pumpkin Spice Colostrum Cake…05:45

-How Angelo Keely has become a world-renowned expert on protein…09:50

  • Was raised as an all-natural, “crunchy” kid in the 80s
  • Pescatarian and plant-based diet
  • Learned the importance of mixing protein sources from a very young age
  • Mom was obsessed with amino acids (AAs)
  • Traumatic incident at age of 16; began whey protein as a means of recovery
  • Underwent a health transformation in 2020

-How Angelo Keely and his health transformation caused a hyper-focus on protein and amino acids…15:30

  • Watched calorie intake; upped daily protein intake; strength training
  • Higher protein intake, good sources, allows satiety with lower calorie intake
  • Protein Leverage Hypothesis

-Overview of the different types of amino acids…31:30

-Creatine as an amino acid…39:48

-The appropriate amount of protein and aminos to intake…42:45

  • AAs by themselves are not protein, but proteins are partly AAs
  • 20g of AAs has same amount of EAAs as 40g of whey protein isolate
  • Hard to determine an exact amount of AAs and protein intake per day
  • RDA is .3g of protein for every lb. for a sedentary person
  • People with active lifestyles, athletes require far more AAs (.5-.8 g per lb.)
  • Numbers go way up if you're strength training or trying to lose weight
  • Too much protein in one sitting loses the efficacy

-The ranking of the quality of animal-based protein sources…50:45

-The good and bad when it comes to protein powders…59:00

-Concerns and problems with the safety certifications…1:07:30

  • Organic, “grass-fed” can be misleading
  • There is no such thing as a 100% grass-fed whey protein

-The long history of whey protein…1:12:25

  • Archaeologists discovered pure whey from as far back as 7,000 years ago
  • Hippocrates prescribed whey for immune issues, skin conditions, etc.
  • European whey houses 400-500 years ago
  • Tendency to bash what has been around for a long time
  • Science proves whey to be the superior protein powder

-How to get a protein powder that doesn't taste like ash…1:16:10

-And much more with Angelo Keely!

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Do you have questions, thoughts, or feedback for Angelo Keely or me? Leave your comments below and one of us will reply!

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14 thoughts on “Everything You Need To Know About Amino Acids, Animal Vs. Plant Protein, How Much Protein You Need & Much, Much More With Kion’s Angelo Keely.

  1. Brian Vranes says:

    John Jaquish has an EAAs product called Fortagen that contains 10 grams of aminos with “ratios optimized for anabolic utility”. He claims the dose is equivalent to taking 50 grams of whey. I’m curious about your thoughts on what his justification for that claim might be. (Kion blows his out of the water in my opinion)

  2. Sarah says:

    Can you recommend a plant protein supplement?

    1. Ben Greenfield says:

      I discuss this on this episode: https://bengreenfieldlife.com/podcast/how-to-choose-protein-powder/

  3. Allan says:

    Is it true that honey also has protein? How much protein is there in one tablespoon and is there a difference between regular honey and manuka honey? I’ve been looking to get this Manuka honey for a while now, but I would like to know if it would help with my daily protein intake?

    1. Ben Greenfield says:

      Hey Allan, feel free to check out this resource: bengreenfieldlife.com/article/sabbathramblings/honey/

  4. Father McKenzie says:

    Why do you pronounce hydrolysate “hydrosylate”?

  5. Brian Terrt says:

    Hey Ben, Great podcast, super informative. I love the Aminos, when is the absolute best time to use them? My budget allows me to buy about 1 or 2 packages per month, so hoping to get the most bang for the buck. Thanks for your suggestions!

    1. Ben Greenfield says:

      Check out The Ultimate Guide: https://getkion.com/blogs/all/the-ultimate-guide-to-kion-aminos

  6. Mark says:

    What I didn’t hear was the effectiveness of taking EAAs when daily quality protein intake is already adequate or high. Essentially, if daily protein intake is sufficient, is there a need or a time where EAA supplementation can be beneficial? I only hear about EAAs being useful when daily protein intake is low, or as an alternative to additional dietary protein intake, or to help reduce daily calories. However, if someone is taking enough protein and timing it correctly throughout the day, will further EAAs help with MPS?

  7. Bill Montgomery says:

    Hi,
    Question for you. would the Ketone Esthers be a good choice for something to eat at top of mountain. I usually eat sugar stuff. Would it get me back down the mountain? Pretty expensive snack, but I am curious.

    1. Florian says:

      I’m using the “Keto Brick” for longer tours

      https://www.ketobrick.com/

      would say Ketone esters are to low in calories. If it’s a proper mountain tour, it’s hard to get enough energy in, compared to what it takes to conquer the up- & down-hill.

  8. Mike says:

    Isn’t this a re run of an old podcast?

    1. ugotit says:

      my thoughts exactly

    2. Ben Greenfield says:

      yes

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