[Transcript] – How UK’s Leading Biohacker Eats, Drinks, & Optimizes His Life: An Interview With Tim Gray.

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From podcast: https://bengreenfieldlife.com/podcast/tim-gray-podcast/

[00:00:00] Introduction

[00:01:39] Podcast Sponsors

[00:04:52] Guest Introduction

[00:07:34] Part 1: How Tim got interested in biohacking initially

[00:16:20] Tim's Morning Routine

[00:33:16] Podcast Sponsors

[00:39:51] cont. Tim's Morning Routine

[00:42:54] Tim's Workday And Go-To Supplements

[00:48:38] Strategies for staying active throughout the day

[00:56:07] Cool Features At Tim's Summit In London

[01:04:23] New Tech That Will Change The Game In Coming Years

[01:06:40] What to expect with the VIP package for the event

[01:07:45] Biohacking Scene In London

[01:10:11] Part 2: Tim Gray's Daily Biohacking Routine

[01:27:49] End of Podcast

Ben: My name is Ben Greenfield. And, on this episode of the Ben Greenfield Life Podcast.

Tim:  When I sold my agencies, actually is one of the things that I wanted to do is say that I wouldn't be tied to an office ever again. Walk the walk and talk the talk, not just be sat in an office.

Ben:  So, what's the actual scene like in London right now as far as biohacking is concerned? Is it popular that the UK is kind of catching up to the US, ahead of the US, or what's the scene actually like over there?

Tim:  Keep my food intake in and my daily training and stretching and everything together pretty solidly. Otherwise, I shrink back down quite quickly.

Ben:  Faith, family, fitness, health, performance, nutrition, longevity, ancestral living, biohacking and a whole lot more. Welcome to the show.

Hey, today's podcast episode is with a really great guy named Tim Gray from the UK, a well-known biohacker over there. As a matter of fact, Tim is so interesting that after we finish this episode I said, “Well, you know what, you should do an even deeper dive into your daily routine to just help people really get their head wrapped around all the gadgets and devices, and self-quantification, and lifestyle, and body brain optimization tool.” So, that's what Tim did. And so, this is kind of a two-part. You're getting my interview with him, but then you're getting even deeper dive about the ins and outs of his day as you listen to this show.

So, he said doozy.

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Alright, folks. On today's show, I have a guy who is known, and I have no clue what this means, as the UK's leading biohacker. I also know him as the founder of this thing called the Help Optimisation Summit, which is going to happen in London. Actually, my guest name is Tim Gray.

Tim, when is the biohacking or Health Optimisation Summit thing happening in London? What's the dates for that?

Tim:  28th, 29th of May this year.

Ben:  Okay. How come you weirdo spell optimization with an S instead of a Z?

Tim:  How many people ask of it. Guess, we're awkward Brits.

Ben:  Geez, alright. Well, I'll let you get away with the S as long as I can tell British dentistry jokes. Isn't that the stereotype for Brits? You got to tell dentistry or tooth jokes?

Tim:  Yup, yup. Or, get us to wait in a queue.

Ben:  Yeah, exactly at a queue. So, anyways rather than a line, I know Tim, you've invested in multiple six-figure businesses, digital marketing agencies, you got London's first hyperbaric oxygen clinics, and you're well-known for detailed tracking of a few dozen different biomarkers per day. You're pretty prolific in the whole biohacking scene. We'll talk later on about this crazy summit that you've put together. I'm planning on making my way over there myself actually.

So, if people want to go, check out the Health Optimisation Summit. What I'll do is I'll give you a big old fat discount code if you want to attend and you want to go hang out in London. And, we'll talk more about what to expect over there. But, like Tim mentioned, that's going to be May 28th and 29th. So, I'll link to that and everything else that Tim and I talked about if you go to BenGreenfieldFitness.com/TimGray. It's spelled with an A, not an E because he's a British, Tim Gray.

So, Tim, welcome, man.

Tim:  Thanks for having me, Ben.

Ben:  Yeah, yeah, for sure. I don't think we've actually podcasted before, have we? I'm having this deja vu, but I really don't think we have.

Tim:  No, no, we hung out a few times, but we've never done a podcast.

Ben:  Yeah, yeah, for sure. We've run into each other at random biohacking events where I think people think all we do is lay around on the floor doing coffee enemas and shoving laser lights up our nose.

So, tell me about what got you into this whole biohacking scene because I don't think that this has been your track forever.

Tim:  I mean around 2010 I kind of got ill. Like a lot of people that get into the biohacking space, I think it's through a place of need realizing that the doctors don't quite help them as they would hope they could. And, I started initially just with things like bloating and started getting food intolerances and brain fog and–

Ben:  Just like out of the blue?

Tim:  Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like one day I ate pasta because I thought that that was healthy. Met way back when.

Ben:  Me too. I used to shove down boatloads of that stuff to get ready for my triathlons. I have the pasta feed parties. By the way, this health crisis that you started having, what were you doing at the time when that happened for a job?

Tim:  Yeah. I was running marketing agency. I was doing 16, 18-hour days. I was waking up shoving any old food in my mouth, not eating anything decent during the day, eating, and then jumping straight into bed again. Wash, rinse, and repeat six days a week. And, on the other night, I'll go out and get absolutely wasted because that's what people that's stressed do supposedly. Yeah. And, that's the perfect storm.

And, I went traveling to Bali. And, I was there for about a month. And, on the way back, I got a kidney stone stuck in one of my ureters which was evil, beyond evil. I was in hospital for several days. And, at the end of it, they just said, “Well, we don't know why people get them, but you just will. You have to put up with it for life.” And, I was walking around stressed for a whole year worrying about having another one stuck and whether or not I could go out without having to take some drugs, any painkillers just in case. And then, I started getting urinary tract infections at least once a week and taking more and more antibiotics, which made my bloating even worse. And then, I started getting chronic fatigue and all sorts of things. And, it started spiraling out of control.

Yeah. So, it got really, really bad. Really, really, bad. And, I was in and out of the doctors. I got to know the receptionist by first name basis as a result. I was in the doctors every day in one week. I said to the doctor at the end of it like, “What's wrong with me?” He shrugged his shoulders and said, “I don't know. Can't find anything wrong.” All the tests are coming back fine and everything was good, but in fact, I was absolutely screwed.

So, my mom actually drove me home because I wasn't able to drive. I was so ill. And, I started googling. And, I guess like a marketing strategy or a business solution I was trying to do, I'd grab the Post-it notes, slap them across the wall of all the different symptoms and things, and started researching one by one strategically to figure out what was going on.

Fast forward three years of working on loads of stuff. And then, I heard about bulletproof coffee and went from there.

Ben:  The entry-level into biohacking for half the world's population.

Tim:  For sure. Yeah. And then, I realized there's a load of crazy fools out there like me that was popping supplements or trying loads of different things to try and optimize their performance and get better brain fog, to sort their brain fog, sorry. And, kind of went from there really.

One of the things that I stumbled across that was a game-changer for me was hyperbaric oxygen therapy, which is why I opened a clinic and it was so expensive. So hard to get hold of in the UK without traveling outside of London. For some reason, I found that it works so well for my energy and my mental clarity. I'd in fact sit in the chamber and work for hours on end because it's just so good.

Ben:  If the hyperbaric oxygen helped you so much, do you know what was actually wrong with you? Was it more of a brain issue that was manifesting in gut-brain axis symptoms and so oxygenation of the brain was helping? What was it?

Tim:  Yes and no. It turned out I actually had mercury poisoning because I had previously a mouthful of metal. And, I'd been addicted to tuna and salmon sushi for years thinking it was healthy all the time. And, my levels of mercury were so high. It was causing mitochondrial dysfunction left and right. And, also, I was a chronic mouth breather, not a nose breather. I didn't exercise enough because I was working around the clock. It's just the perfect storm and oxygenation wasn't something that I was particularly good at although we should be as humans. And, for me, hyperbaric, it was literally a light bulb, it was night or day.

Ben:  It doesn't really make sense at first glance why you would want to be in pressurized oxygen with a greater concentration of oxygen like in an HBOT chamber for something like heavy metals. It's tough to draw the link. But, I know that that's one thing that Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt recommends is the use of HBOC as a way to detox heavy metals. And, I believe it's just due to the increased metabolism that occurs from a cellular standpoint. So, if you've had, let's say a binder that you've taken, a charcoal, or a GI binder, or cilantro, or something like that, it may actually help to rid the body of mercury and heavy metals just by speeding up the process. I suppose, probably you could also do some damage if you didn't have binders in your system and you're just taking a bunch of stuff to up-regulate your phase 0 through 4 liver detox pathways. You'd probably just kind of be moving metals around in your body inside a hyperbaric chamber. That's that classic mad hatter syndrome some people get when they try to detox and all the metals wind up in the brain based on the osmotic gradient over to the brain.

So, yeah, that's interesting though that helped you out so much.

Tim:  Yeah, it was amazing. I mean, my body started healing properly. My brain was on fire. It felt like it was me again. So, I kind of like having three sessions a week, hour and a half each session. And, yeah, it kind of became a staple for me. But, it is a plaster though. As  you know with a lot of these biohacks, what is it reversing? Why do you need it and someone else doesn't? You can constantly keep on having this plaster when you're chronically ill and figuring out the root cause and getting to that. But, in the meantime, hyperbaric work really well for me. Now, I just do it once a week or something or rather when I'm on a chill.

Ben:  Yeah. So, you basically started a hyperbaric clinic where you could essentially profit from people paying a certain fee to come in and use the chambers for a certain period of time?

Tim:  Yeah. I mean, I did it just because I needed a clinic nearby. Actually, I didn't do it for the money. My companies were quite successful I didn't need the money, I just thought a clinic nearby would be nice. I can jump in it and it will cover the costs but it turned out to be really good venture. It was the first private clinic in London like it. Now, there's about eight or nine of them popped up.

Ben:  Do you still have that clinic?

Tim:  I exited about four years ago. No, three, four years ago. But, it served me well. It served me very well.

Ben:  Okay, got you. So now, are you just full-on just doing this Health Optimisation, with an S, Summit?

Tim:  Yes. I sold up my agencies just because it wasn't me anymore, the team drank Coca-Cola, ate birthday cakes, drank, smoke, everything. And, for me as a biohacker, I want to be optimal, that's not really the environment I want to be in. So, I decided to sell up and focus on the summit full-time, which I did back in 2018.

Ben:  Although it would be cool to also be a biocaker, a biohacker-biocaker. Have your cake and eat it too. You get enough dihydroberberine, and bitter melon, and cold thermogenesis in your system. Maybe you can get away with it. But, that actually leads me to something I wanted to ask you.

You're known as a pretty prolific biohacker. And, like I mentioned, as UK's leading biohacker. So, I actually love when I get somebody like that on my show to actually kind of get a sneak peek into what your life looks like, what a typical day in your life would look like. And, obviously, this might rabbit hole a little bit. I might interrupt you, but could you walk me through kind of your typical day as far as some of the sexy stuff that you're doing? And, I don't want to hear about exercise and eating healthy. Screw that. I want to hear about all the sexy biohacks. No, I'm just kidding, just throw it all in there. I want to hear about Tim's day.

Tim:  Yeah. Well, it starts from the moment I wake up obviously. If I'm thinking chronologically, it's opening the curtains, getting fresh clean light and air in the room and light into my eyes because obviously resetting the circadian rhythm on a daily basis, making sure you haven't got phone junk light in your eyes immediately, which is where most people go wrong, I think.

Ben:  Yeah. Just too much blue light in the absence of the infrared spectrum when they first get up looking at the screen. Although, we've established that you're lazy now if you're opening your shades and there's already sunlight.

Tim:  Well, it depends. It depends on the time of year and where you are. I travel six, nine months of the year, so really, I like to keep it consistent within my sleep and waking hours. But, yeah, it does change contextually. But, yeah, I have blackout blinds to make sure that I get enough sleep and the right sleep. But, I try to reset accordingly. So, yeah. So, fresh air, some light into the eyes, hydrate always with reverse osmosis, re-mineralized water usually with hypertonic or something like that added to it in my mouth, which is great.

So, it's very, very simple things. One of the things that I like to really focus on is obviously getting the fundamentals right because it's what a lot of people seem to miss. And, people don't realize the power of breathing through your nose or ensuring that you're sleeping the right amount of time because I'm sure many of your listeners are really used to now, but the common, the general public aren't really aware of this. So, things as simple as having mineralized water first thing in the morning to support your detoxification and your energy production, support your adrenals on waking is super important. Whereas, I think, many people just jump up and have their bulletproof coffee or bulletproof style coffee. Immediately I'm waking without actually getting any water into them first, which is just madness.

Ben:  Yeah, yeah. And, I think some of it too is the nuances of the simple stuff. Yeah, you're supposed to get light in the morning, but that doesn't mean necessarily, as you've alluded to, flipping on the lights in your house. Yeah, maybe if this is in my bedroom, my bathroom, it's all red incandescent bulbs. So, yeah, I do flip on my lights first thing when I get up, but that's literally to simulate sunrise because that's the form of lighting I've chosen for my bedroom. Same thing my phone from the night before is still in red light mode, using the color filter option on the iOS app. And then, I typically put on the red set of blue light blockers in the morning. So, for the first hour or so that I'm wandering around just doing all my shit, I am mostly under red light and like an hour after I get up, that's when I'll start to open the shades. I've got some blue light-producing devices in my office. I'll throw in the ear and the eyes blue lights like the HumanCharger or the Re-Timer device. But, yeah, I typically go red light for about the first hour and then bright light like blue light, sunlight from there on out. But, it's these subtle nuances that I think really help people get even more benefit out of the general advice that they've heard like get light in the morning. Well, it's red light. Or, like you mentioned with your hydration, yeah, get water in the morning. But, as you've alluded to, get water that is clean, that's filtered, that has some really hypertonic minerals added to it. I don't know if you're using the Quinton minerals, but it's a perfect example, and maybe add some vitamin C in there for your adrenals, some baking soda alk to alkalize your body at the beginning of the day. And so, these are the little additions that I think wind up paying dividends for people.

Tim:  Yeah, for sure. I mean, the devil is in the detail. And, I mean, it's quite funny I'd touch on one thing as obviously, I do red light therapy most days. Actually, I really find that it's great for me, but it's funny how many people say I love red light therapy and I do it just before I go to bed. But, they end up having sleep problems. And, I find that some people, it really keeps them awake and some people it works for them. I think the devil is in the detail for a lot of individuals. And, I don't think they realize that there are finer details to hydrating or finer details to morning light exposure or to red light therapy and things.

Ben:  You're right. The red light at night can be stimulating for a lot of people. I mean, there are some companies like Joovv who has sponsored this podcast in the past. They have an ambient mode on their red-light devices where you can have it be a little less bright or honestly, you could use a red-light device but put on blue light blocking glasses so you have a little less stimulus to your eyes. And so, yeah, even the use of red light at night, you do have to be a little bit careful with how much stimulus you actually get. I mean for me in the bedroom, I use very low-wattage red incandescent bulb. So, I'm not even using those big old flashy, the photobiomodulation panels. I typically will use those in the morning because I feel they are kind of stimulating at least for me personally.

Tim:  Likewise, likewise. I mean, they really do for me. That's why I love them in the morning. So, yes, that's part of my morning routine as well actually. But, I think that probably the most important thing out of my whole daily routine and I'm sure from part of your journey it seems that you've been on a similar route is that a lot of the health optimization or biohacking that you do actually comes from within as in terms of mindset and inner work. And so, one thing that is a massive part of my morning routine now that is probably my most sacred part is sitting down and reflecting in silence for 10 minutes, just reflecting on anything that might have triggered me on the previous day if there's something that's upset me or something I haven't reacted as stoically or as cleanly as I felt I should have done. I always sit and reflect on it and think about it from every angle that I possibly can to say what can I learn from this, what does it say about me.

For instance, I'll give you an example, and this is so powerful because you're self-optimizing every single day with every single thing that you might have automatically had an automatic reaction to for your whole life. But, when something like this happens, you think, well, how can I be better? An example was I had some builders come to my house the other week. I'll be quick on this. And, one of them spoke to me like I was stupid. And, I almost triggered. I didn't. The next morning when I reflected, I thought, “Why did I almost trigger?” And, she's like, “Well, because this person spoke to me like I was stupid.” Well, why would I trigger if someone speaks to me like I'm stupid because I'm not? Exactly. Perhaps when I was younger, I used to feel stupid so someone called me stupid, I would feel stupid. But now, I know I'm not. So, there's no need to me to trigger anymore for something like that. So, sitting, reflecting on this on a daily basis actually before I set my day really means that I'm set up for a solid day mindset-wise as well as all the other traditional biohacks such as hyperbaric, and red light, and everything else I do on a daily basis.

Ben:  I think that's a good point. If you look at the four questions that you can ask as turnarounds, it's, oh gosh, what's the book with the four questions about? Is this true? How do I know this to be true? Do you remember the process I'm alluding to? So, Byron Katie. So, she has this whole kind of system that you feed frustration through or you feed angst through and it involves asking yourself whether or not something is true. If it's true, can you absolutely know that it's true? How do you react when you believe that thought? And then, what happens if you reverse that thought? It's called “The Four Questions” by Byron Katie. It's a great book. But, a lot of times when someone insults you like that, in some cases what it actually is is not you being annoyed that they think you're stupid, it's you being annoyed at yourself because you're thinking they're stupid. And, a lot of times, those things that annoy you are actually you projecting something about yourself on the other person, which is super interesting when you're describing that for some reason that book by Byron Katie just came into my head.

But, even more importantly perhaps this idea of quiet time, I think especially for people who are in the high achieving self-optimization driven industry is of utmost importance. And, a couple examples that I could give related to that, Tim, would be there's an excellent business book that I read that was one of the formative books for business for me. It's called “The Road Less Stupid.” And, the entire book is based on an entrepreneur carving out for themselves so-called thinking time and asking themselves specific questions during that thinking time with a journal undistracted or in my case just because I like to move. My thinking time is when I go on a walk, put same thing, phones in airplane mode, undistracted, often with nothing playing in the earbuds at all and it's just my thinking time to solve problems. And, yeah, your subconscious has its thinking time during the entire night of sleep if you program your subconscious before you go to bed. But, carving at that thinking time, I think, is really, really critical and same as you, probably one of the biggest, it's not a biohack, it's almost the thing you do before or more importantly than all the other hacks is to strip it all down to pure simplicity. And, for me in addition to that walk that is my thinking time, in the morning, I carve out 20 minutes. And, that is basically just my worship prayer silence meditation charge up the spiritual battery time. And, often that involves playing some amazing music, lighting a candle, lighting inside, sitting in silence, listening to the voice of God, then speaking to God, then asking God for things, and reading a section of Scripture. And, I mean honestly, I could throw everything out like the red lights, and the water and the cold stuff, and the laser lights, and the enemas, and whatever. And, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt, that for me would be the most important thing if I could choose anything.

Tim:  Yeah, I agree. I mean, it takes it back to simplicity. I mean, these are the things. It's like the morning routine. I mean, I do have so many different things that I do. I've got a Vitruvian form at the moment which I absolutely love. So, I use that on a daily basis. And, I have my rebounder, which is next to my standing desk, which is earthed out. So, I stand earthed out all day and jump on the rebounder in between calls and things and all of these things but without the mind being in the right place such as my affirmations and the visualizations every day. I find that I need less biohacks. And, it's the same when I'm traveling actually. I spend six to nine months a year traveling. I generally follow the sun and work remotely. But, I find that when I'm in somewhere like Croatia in summer, I need very few biohacks, I need very few supplements. I'm eating fresh seafood. I'm getting plenty of sunlight. I'm grounded all day. I don't need my grounding shoe straps on my grounding desk. It's just amazing how much easier it is when you're closer to nature. And, I think this is the commonality with a lot of biohacks. They are mimicking nature in some form, red light therapy, or satelliting, or hyperbaric oxygen therapy. Day is stacked with all of these things when I'm in the city. But, when I'm out of the city, it's a very different story.

Ben:  So, do you eat breakfast at some point during this timeline in the morning? Are you one of those freaking OMAD crazy warrior guys?

Tim:  No. I'm not Siim Land. I'm not into the one meal a day. I need to get myself 3,000 calories a day roughly of good, obviously, clean calories a day. So, I have to have a pretty heavy breakfast. And, I start with obviously really good bacon, eggs, raw dairy. I really like A2 dairy specifically, which works best for me. So, I have three meals a day but I start from around 9:00 a.m. and finish at 5:30 p.m. That's my eating window, which works amazingly for me. As a result, my heart rate variability is probably 30% higher.

Ben:  Yeah. So, an eight-hour-ish feeding window. And, you're not one of those smoothie superfood coffee tea guys like your old-school bacon, eggs, yogurt, punish that and get on with the day.

Tim:  Yeah, that's right. I mean, I do have a butter coffee with some collagen thrown into it depending on time. But, it's not a staple. These days, it's more of a bonus because I really enjoy the taste of it. That does find its way into my daily routine.

Ben:  Do you do any workouts or anything like that in the morning?

Tim:  Yeah, I do. I have a whole stretching routine. I'm working with, actually, a really, really great functional practitioner at the moment of rebalancing my body, my muscles so that I'm more balanced, I walk straighter, and things like that. Refinement. So, I have stretches on that and I have whole weight routine. I also have the Vitruvian form as I mentioned earlier that is in my daily routine at the moment.

Ben:  What's that called?

Tim:  Vitruvian form. It's a very resistance training platform basically with almost bands on it. So, it does eccentric, concentric, and it's all built into one unit. It's bloody amazing. If you haven't tried it out, you should get one.

Ben:  Yeah, it sounds super cool. What's it called the Vitruvian Trainer?

Tim:  Yes, that's right. Yeah.

Ben:  Huh. Yeah, I'll check it out. My wife will probably flip because we need another exercise machine like a hole in the head. I'll look it up either way. So, how long does this workout take you to do?

Tim:  Yeah. So, I have about 20 minutes on it. It has all preset workouts and things like that. This isn't an ad, by the way, I just think it's bloody awesome. And, about 20 minutes different workout depending on what your goal is for that day or that week. So, it has a whole trainer program. And, you use your iPad and it guides you through everything. So, I find that that's really good.

And then, obviously, I'm in the gym two to three times a week on top of that as well. I have a specific protocol that I'm working on at the moment. I'm typically, without training and eating what my body seems to want, I sit at 59 kilos. If I don't push myself, so I'm around 74 kilos at the moment. So, I need to keep my food intake in, and my daily training, and stretching, and everything together pretty solidly. Otherwise, I shrink back down quite quickly.

Alright, there's this company called HigherDOSE. I've had them on my podcast. They make really cool, basically, it's like home biohacking stuff. And, their products are littered all over my basement. They have a portable infrared sauna blanket that you can wrap yourself in that's literally a warm dose of sunshine that releases all these happy chemicals in your body. But, unlike most saunas and heating blankets, they're extremely low in EMF radiation. So, you get all the benefits of the increased blood flow and the feel-good effects when you wrap yourself in this thing. If I'm taking a nap, I get inside that or my hyperbaric chamber. If I'm laying down and watching some with my kids, I wrap myself in the sauna blanket. If I get sick, man, drink some electrolytes, wrap yourself in that thing, sweat it out even if you don't have a full-on sauna. Sauna Blanket is amazing, super portable too.

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I kind of run into the same thing. I'm a total hard gainer, lean, mean, but I have to work hard to keep muscle on my body which I do not too much of it but enough for the anti-aging component, and the grip strength, and the mitochondrial density, and as the so-called sink for carbohydrates and glycogen. I make it a point to lift at least three days a week. And, typically to lift something other than a Gwyneth Paltrow-esque tiny dumbbell or band, I try to go heavy a few times a week. And then, I throw, gosh, a lot of organ meats, a lot of meat in general, a lot of components that help to keep the muscle on. I'm even using some things called bioregulator peptides right now. I don't know if you're familiar with those, but they're basically very similar to the consumption of organ meats but basically, they're really small amino acid sequences that target. There's one for the thyroid, one for the thymus, one for the liver, one for the kidneys, one for the balls. And, you just basically take this giant handful of these supplements called Peptide Bioregulators, ton of research on them out of Russia. But, I have been doing that for about, it's pretty new, probably like a month now. And, I feel amazing when I use those things. And, I feel I am able to work out harder, longer, and recover faster. So, there's definitely something to them.

Tim:  Yeah, I've tried the ones out of Russia, which are the Khavinson. I think it's Khavinson.

Ben:  Yeah.

Tim:  Khavinson, something like that, peptides in Russia, which yeah, bioregulator, ones which are really quite special things.

Ben:  It's Dr. Khavinson, by the way. He's the guy who's done most the research on them. So, ,yeah the same guy, same general philosophy.

Okay. So, anyways, you've got this workout, you got your water, you got your light, you got your quiet time, your thinking time. At some point in the day, are you actually working or because you're primarily doing this summit? Is it mostly just emails and computer-type of stuff at home?

Tim:  It's a mix between meeting speakers, heading out and meeting speakers, or meeting with exhibitors. But, majority of it, 80% of it is working from home or working from remotely somewhere or other, just from a standing desk or on a beach, which is when I sold my agency, is actually is one of the things I wanted to do is say that I wouldn't be tied to an office ever again. I really wanted to be able to walk the walk and talk the talk, not just be sat in an office for half of my life and dream about being in nature and having biohacking to reverse all the damage I was creating. So, I'm very, very lucky to be able to work from just pretty much anywhere except for the last six weeks before the event every year.

Ben:  By the way, I should have asked you this. But, with that yogurt, eggs, bacon type of brekkie, are there any particular supplements beside those peptide bioregulators that we talked about that you think are real game-changers like real go-tos, especially for people who are interested in the pointy edge of biohacking or longevity, for example?

Tim:  Yeah, it's a great question. Personally, I have various genetic components that I need optimizing for. So, for instance, I'm one of the MTHFR guys. For me, the trimethylglycine is my hero supplement of all, actually. And, that's for multiple reasons actually. I find that my heart rate variability almost doubles with trimethylglycine before bed. But, if I have it in the morning, my energy is significantly better. So, I stack that with B12 methylcobalamin and methylfolate as well. So, I have those three together, which is really my hero product in the morning.

And, the other one that I really like, it's Saw Palmetto at the moment. I particularly like that I find that that's good for me at the moment just because with my training and various other things changing, then it's caused various different things. For instance, I had a tension in the prostate area, so saw palmetto I find to be very, very good for me.

So, those are really my two staples at the moment in terms of supplementation. But, I was at a point where I was taking kind of 20, 30 different supplements every single day and relying on them and it just actually gets a bit out of control. And, as I'm sure, you've probably gone through this route as well, Ben, is like more doesn't necessarily equal better, it's about strategically using these things to support your goals not necessarily just necking as many supplements as you can get in.

Ben:  Yeah, yeah. That's interesting what you say about the MTHFR gene and this stack that's been helping you out so much. For people listening, the MTHFR gene just basically codes for an enzyme that converts the folate that you would normally eat in food into the active form. It's called 5-methyltetrahydrofolate. If you have a mutation in that gene, it affects how much folate your body is going to be able to metabolize and absorb. And, in many people who have this gene, one of the things that you see is extremely high levels of what's called homocysteine. And, that can cause basically symptoms such as inflammation, brain fog, et cetera, and trimethylglycine. So, it's also known as betaine. You might have seen it by that name or TMG. That actually reduces the homocysteine. And, it seems to be pretty supported that trimethylglycine also by some form of active B12 like hydroxyl cobalamin. And, I don't know if that's the one that you're taking, Tim. And then, a really good form of magnesium. That's kind of one of the holy trilogies for the MTHFR thing is magnesium, and TMG, and active B12. And, there's obviously a lot of other stuff that you can do. But, for people who test and have that, yeah, that seems to help them out quite a bit, along with, of course, detoxing their environment and removing inflammatory foods, et cetera, et cetera. But, yeah, I think that's a pretty good stack for that.

And so, in terms of middle-of-the-day lunch, are you a nap siesta guy? Or, do you just kind of pound through the day until that 5 o'clock meal?

Tim:  Yeah, no chance of resting during the day. I love powering through. I really enjoy powering through. I find that my mind is at peak after I've had breakfast all the way through to kind of 5 or 6 o'clock. And, when sun sets, the blue blockers go on. And, that's when I start calming down and getting more relaxed, ready for resting in the evening. So, I found that I've always been a “night owl” my whole life, and I realized that I'm just one of these super sensitive to blue light guys. So, I would always be up until 2 or 3 o'clock all the way through to when I was 30. And, after finding blue-blocking glasses, I realized that in fact now I wasn't a night owl, I was just severely under slept and aging myself too fast as a result. And now, my sleep is the other way around, it's kind of get to bed at 10:30, wake up at 6:00, 6:30, something like that every day depending on how much sleep I need based on the activity I've had for that day. So, I don't sleep during the day, I just get it done, power through, and super productive with everything scheduled and organized accordingly.

Ben:  Okay. So, what do you do for lunch?

Tim:  I really, really enjoy ribeye steak and some olive oil. I'm generally a higher fat guy, and higher protein, low carb. I know that's what my body thrives on. And, maybe some chicken breast with some tarragon, ginger and things stuffed right in, something like that. So, it's a really, really meat predominant meal actually throughout every meal. But, I do use sweet potato accordingly after training on training days and things like that. But, I'm one of these guys that loves the organ meats like you do, I think, and predominantly meat-heavy with a lot of olive oil, coconut oil, and the usual things like that.

Ben:  Yeah. And so, when you get into the afternoon and everything, are you moving and training twice a day? Do you have a treadmill workstation or some kind of setup to stay active during the day? Or, how do you tackle that component?

Tim:  Yeah, exactly. Exactly that. Well, I have a rebounder next to my desk. I have various different foam rollers. I make sure that I go out for a walk every single day. I schedule that. I only have one workout most days. But, really getting some steps in, making sure that I'm just stretching throughout the day and using the rebounder, which I think the rebounder is one of my favorite, one of my favorite breakouts actually during my working day because I can do that four or five times quite easily for five to ten minutes ago. And, I find that that really rejuvenates me and gets my mind firing up again especially in between calls when I've had five or six calls one after the other after the other.

Ben:  And so, that's like a mini trampoline. What's that look like for you if you use it? What exactly are you doing?

Tim:  So, it's just literally bouncing on it. And, it's lymphatic flow. I'm just getting layman's terms. The juice is flowing, getting the body moving. And, obviously, it's soft so it's a low-impact trampoline. I think it's by bellicon. I think it is. And, it's just 2.5 feet across. So, it's a mini trampoline, really great rebounder actually.

Ben:  Yeah. You do use the rebounder in the morning. I actually like to combine it with breathwork. You got to be super careful because obviously, you're bouncing up and down and upright. So, proceed at your own risk, but I will actually on one bounce do the fully in, letting go, fully in, letting go. And, I'll bounce 30 times like that and then on the 30th bounce, just suck all the air in, shoot it out the top of the head while I'm still bouncing just like you'd normally do during Wim Hof. And then, once I've held it up there for about five to ten seconds, I'll blast it all out, hold the exhale for as long as I can. And again, you got to be careful. If you haven't done this before, you need to make sure, you're comfortable with managing the dizziness. But, it actually works pretty well. And, it charges me up, holy cow, in the morning. But, right before I do that whole worship, meditation, prayer, journaling thing, I'll just pump up a really good praise and worship song or a really good motivational song and just bounce and do that breath work. And, there's something about the bouncing and the breath work that just lights me up. And, same thing as you do if I've got low energy during the day, I had that trampoline right next to my office and I'll just go bounce on it or drag out in the sunshine and bounce on and do breathe work. And, it sounds silly, but I mean the thing actually freaking works. I used to laugh at all the old people on trampolines. And now, I know I actually see a lot of benefit out of it. Alright, maybe I'm just getting old. I don't know.

Tim:  Me too, Ben. I think it's really, really nice. I mean, I think the sedentary lifestyle is one of the biggest killers that there are. And, I think reversing that if you're in the house. I feel like a fraud if I'm not out for whatever reason. And, work is busy especially depending on the time of year, and not actually getting moving at all, and having a rebounder just to keep it simple is really beneficial. It's very underrated. And, you're right about the breath work, practice nose breathing. And, I have to force myself to do it because I've been a mouth breather my whole life. My mouth taped at night, most nights as well just to keep me on track.

And, when I first started rebounding, I actually had a 12-foot huge thing in my last garden. And, I couldn't trampoline without mouth breathing. If I was doing it, it just couldn't. And, it's amazing to see how much I've trained myself over the last couple of years because now, I can consistently nose breathe while rebounding even have my mouth taped at the same time. So, it's really showing that I'm dealing with the carbon dioxide better, meaning that I'm obviously better oxygenated. And, is partially the reason why I don't need to use hyperbaric oxygen therapy so much these days, I guess.

Ben:  Yeah, exactly. And, the one thing that I find, of course, with the mouth tape because I finally had a holistic dentist I had in the show, Dr. Loud talked me into doing it after she did some testing on me and found that I did have a dip in blood oxygen a few times during the night and possibly a couple snoring episodes. So, I decided to start doing it, but I have a beard and a mustache, so I can't really tape. But, I figured out you can use these little things, they're called turbines. They're nose clips. Or, you can get those little stickers that you attach to your nose that open up the airways in your nasal passages. And, that seems to just automatically kind of shift me almost subconsciously into nasal breathing during the night. So, that's what I use instead of the mouth tape, and works pretty well. Somebody needs to come up with a mouth tape that works with men's facial hair by the way business idea for somebody.

Tim:  Bloody brilliant those nose clips are actually really good. There's actually a test I did recently. So, I'm having laser therapy to reverse snoring or I have been snoring a little bit over the last few months. And, I went to a snoring clinic that does laser therapy to help reverse that. And, they have a 75% success rate that they were telling me. So, one of the tests that they're doing is that you actually use a snore app to see how much you snore. You do that for a week. And then, after you've done that for a week and you've got your baseline, you then use those nose clips to open up your sinuses and see if your snoring changes. They then know if it's a throat or a nose snore. And then, they can use the laser therapy accordingly to help you. And so, interestingly for me, while I do breathe much better nose breathing using the clips that you were mentioning, actually I'm more of a throat snorer, which means that the laser therapy that they do actually helps tighten up, help the throat produce more collagen and tighten it up so that you don't actually snore so much. There's a really good success rate. Looking forward to seeing them actually next week for my laser therapy session after all this damn tracking I've been doing for the last few months.

Ben:  What kind of laser is this?

Tim:  I don't actually know. In all honesty, it's very similar, they were telling me to the type of laser therapy that they use for vaginal rejuvenation. In fact, it's the same machine just with a different setting. They're giving me the full demo of it on Wednesday.

Ben:  So, they're using a vagina laser on your throat.

Tim:  Kind of. Yeah, kind of. They're actually going to be at the Summit because they've got such a good track record on snoring. I'm using them out obviously before they're exhibiting. But, yeah, they've had such a good success rate and seen so many testimonials on it that I've invited them to come to the Summit.

Ben:  Interesting. And, we could probably talk for a really long time about your personal routine, but I actually did want to ask you a few questions about this Summit because a lot of times these are just exposed with a handful of speakers and a few random biohacks everybody's seen before.

But, I'm curious in terms of stuff that you think is kind of cutting edge or exciting. What have you learned as far as meeting with exhibitors about some cool new technology coming down the pipeline? Or, what is it that you're most excited about from a speaker standpoint or experience standpoint? Just fill me in on this whole thing. Help us wrap our heads around it.

Tim:  While in America, obviously you have various conferences like Paleo FX and whatnot. In the UK, in Europe, we're not really used to having something of such big size and especially with some many American or worldwide speakers in one place. So, we kind of get really hyped up about it. Whereas, I think, in America, you get a lot more used to it. So, we got obviously 105, I think it is exhibitors this year ranging from Dry Farm Wines for instance. Who doesn't love Dry Farm Wines? We've got sunlight and saunas, and actually Hapbee, Hapbee device is going to be here this year. We've got a standing desk brand. We've got the spermidine guys coming, which is going to be awesome. We've got photobiomodulation company. We've got called Thor who do a really amazing red-light bed. Actually, I'm not sure if you're familiar with those guys or not. And then, we've got Andy from Alitura coming as well with his male natural skincare.

Ben:  Can you explain the Thor bed to me exactly? Because a lot of clinics in the US have that as well.

Tim:  Yes. It looks like a sunbed, a lie-down sunbed. And, it's red-light therapy, it's pretty much the most premium red-light bed that you can find. They go into a lot of clinics. The guy behind Thor, actually his name is James Carroll. He's actually a speaker of ours as well. He is all about quantification and the science. It's not just, here's a red-light device and we hope it works. He's spoken to Congress about this about the uses of red-light therapy and laser therapy. And, his whole company is around photobiomodulation and the cutting-edge technology. Now, the Novothor is the name of the actual–

Ben:  The Novothor. So, you were talking about the Novothor bed. And, you just pick up wherever you'd like, fill me in on the Novothor and how exactly that works.

Tim:  Yeah. So, the Novothor is basically the creme de la creme of, I guess, red light beds. It's a whole-body red-light device that looks like one of the lie-down sunbeds. The guys at Thor, I guess, really are into the heavy signs of it. They've spoken to Congress red-light therapy and the utilization of it in medical setting. And, I guess the creme de la creme of red-light devices for mainly for clinics and things like that. So, instead of just having a device leaning up against the wall, which is traditional to use at home which are great. But, for more of a clinical setting, the Novothor is the big boy, I guess.

Ben:  Yeah, yeah. And, do people actually buy this for their home and lay down in it at their home? Or, is this something that's more like you would have at a clinic that someone would go to and visit?

Tim:  It's definitely more of a clinic to start thing because it's a big unit. It's as big as a hyperbaric oxygen chamber. I mean, I know people have got it at home, but it's a big and expensive unit. We're talking hundreds in the hundreds of thousands of bucks a unit, I think.

Ben:  Okay. So, that's one of the exhibitors that you have. But, how many other people do you actually have exhibiting at this event?

Tim:  Yes, we've got 105 exhibitors. 105, yeah. We've got constant glucose monitors. We've got various different testing companies. Obviously, Dry Farm Wines coming and we're doing Dry Farm Wine party on the Saturday night. We've even got healthy cosmetics for the girls really clean brand of cosmetics that I brought in from Lithuania, which is amazing. We've got urine testing at home analysis device coming as well. We've got Aquatru reverse osmosis filters. I mean, we've got 105 brands like this. I've spent the last three years approaching, testing, and choosing them one by one myself for the event. So, everything that's here, I've used and know personally. So, yeah.

And then, in terms of the speakers, obviously–

Ben:  No, go ahead. Go ahead.

Tim:  Yeah. So, the speakers obviously yourself, we've got Dr. Satchin Panda and Jolene Brighten talking about female hormone optimization. We've got Patrick McKeown, Jim Kwik, Vishen Lakhiani. Actually, a good friend of mine, Kris Gethin. I think he might be a mutual friend of ours, actually. And, Diana Rodgers from Sacred Cow, which I'm really looking forward to that, actually, because I don't know if you've had Diana on the podcast or not before but she talks about sustainability and supply chain and healthy clean meats. Yeah. So, I'm really looking forward to having her come to London.

Ben:  Yeah. There's a few devices that are there that are super interesting like the Sensate. The Sensate something I've actually had a chance to try out. I noticed they were going to be at the event. It's very interesting. You hang around your neck. It's a vagal nerve stimulator that vibrates and correlates to audio that plays for relaxation and for vagal nerve stimulation. That's one that I think is super interesting. Another one is probably kind of in a similar category is the BrainTap, which I actually had used a few years ago and just started using it again. It's a light sound machine that, oh my gosh, it just almost instantly shifts you into this hypnotic-esque state. So, that was kind of cool too.

And then, there's a few that I'm actually unfamiliar with like the TaoPatch. What's the TaoPatch?

Tim:  Yeah. TaoPatch is actually a really interesting little, I'd say, devices. They're more like stickers that you put on you and it essentially helps concentrate light and energy into the body. Actually, a mutual friend of ours, Martin Tobias introduced me to them a few years ago, actually. And, yeah, they've been really, really popular. Martin said it was really good for his energy and whatnot. They've been tested. I think it was with people with multiple cirrhosis and they've done studies behind people with Parkinson's and things like that. So, yeah, it's really, really good.  I guess the best way to describe it would be almost like acupuncture, but using natural light therapy, I guess. And, they're little stickers that you put on several places on your body.

Ben:  Okay, okay. So, it's like going over. It's something that would be placed on different meridians on the body very similar like acupuncture. But, instead of using a needle, it's using more a light therapy?

Tim:  Exactly. Exactly that. Yeah.

Ben:  Interesting. Okay. Now, a couple others that I'm kind of unfamiliar with, the MindScopic. What's the MindScopic?

Tim:  MindScopic, a natural nootropics brand. So, they have, for instance, alpha GPC stacked with several mushrooms as well. They also do a 5 HTP. They call it a mood stabilizer or a mood enhancer as well, which is one of my favorites actually. So, yes, the natural nootropic's really, really clean. Great guys. I mean, it's a European brand comes from Holland actually. We don't have such an abundance of nootropics as you guys do over there. And, I think one that's similar is Neurohacker, the Qualia, which–

Ben:  Yeah. Yeah, that one's super interesting.

Okay. So, in terms of a lot of the exhibitors, all these devices there and specifically regarding devices, in particular, is there anything that you think is just going to be kind of a total pattern for people, something that folks have not seen before that they'll be seeing at the event, or that you've come across, even people aren't going to be able to make it to the event that you just think is super cool that you're super stoked about?

Tim:  My personal favorite is actually BrainTap, which you've just mentioned which is obviously kind of light enhancement and sound with meditative which I really like. And, I think for you guys in the States, it's probably more commonplace because they've exhibited various conferences around the States. But, for the UK, I think it's brilliant. I actually love stacking that when I'm in my hyperbaric chamber. So, I use BrainTap while I'm in the hyperbaric and I feel like I'm almost high and in between the states of being awakened asleep and dreaming actually while I'm awake. So, it's really, really solid device, actually. So, I'm really excited for them to come to London. That was a lot of work to get them here, but they're here. So, that's probably my favorite.

Ben:  Yeah. I've experienced the same thing with the BrainTap. I use it in the hyperbaric chamber and it's a total game-changer. I mean, you put on for 20 minutes and you feel like you've been in deep sleep for a couple of hours. The only thing I've experienced that with is the NuCalm device, but the BrainTap actually has the light stimulation in addition to the sound. And, the super interesting thing that you might like is by the time you guys have yourself Sunday, I actually have two sessions in the BrainTap. I took my entire morning meditation routine and evening meditation routine and we code [01:05:57] _____. So, if people have the BrainTap and own the app, I think it's actually going to be live probably by the time this podcast got my whole meditation routine is in the BrainTap now. So, that's pretty cool. That's a brand-new development I'm pretty excited about.

Tim:  Awesome. Awesome. I'm looking forward to checking that one out. Yeah, awesome. I mean the other one is Kaatsu, the Kaatsu. But, I mean, I think again that's one that you're very familiar with in the States, it's quite common. But, for us in the UK, I mean it's a really good device and they're just bringing out a new version of it, I've heard.

Ben:  Yeah. They actually have a pretty slick new version of that. And, that's the blood flow restriction training for people who haven't yet experienced that Kaatsu is kind of the creme de la creme way to do it.

Tim, tell me about what people get if they do the VIP package for the event.

Tim:  Yeah. So, VIP is a speaker and VIP dinner on the Friday night. So, you get to have dinner with likes of you and all the other speakers that are coming along. So, that's a really nice fancy event on the Friday night. We spread the dinner out, so you get to sit next to certain speakers and things like that, which is really cool. And then, obviously, we have a huge VIP room where you can hang out and chill, and speak with speakers, and try out various different devices that aren't available in the main hall as well. Yeah. So, it's a really nice experience for the VIP. We got great feedback from it from our 2019 event. So, we've enhanced it, even more, this year. The VIP dinner is going to be a very special one. So, I'm really looking forward to that. So, all my heroes and all my colleagues in one room at the same time. It's bloody brilliant. So, if there's ever any speakers or anyone that comes along and wants to meet, then that's the time.

Ben:  Yeah. And, what's the actual scene like in London right now as far as biohacking is concerned? Is this a popular thing or do you think that the UK is kind of catching up to the US, ahead of the US, or what's the scene actually like over there?

Tim:  I think the name biohacking is bigger in the States than it is in the UK. That's just because a lot of people don't necessarily understand what it means. And, we actually did a survey on Oxford Street in London to ask people if they wanted to biohack themselves and less than a tenth of a percent of people even knew what it meant. But, when we said, do you want to optimize your health, we got 94% of people said yes–

Ben:  Yeah. “Is that even legal, bro?”

Tim:  Yeah, exactly. Exactly. We had 94% of people said yes to optimizing their health. 5% of people said a loved one and 1% of people are just busy on their lunch break. So, the biohacking scene is actually quite big, but it's not necessarily labeled as that so much over here. We call it health optimization. We have a meet-up that runs every 6-8 weeks in London. We pull 300 to 500 people every month for one of the events. So, we are very, very active scene over here, but under the label of health optimization. But, biohacking is definitely growing as a label. It's becoming bigger and bigger and bigger every month. And, I think the media has been growing a whole of it a lot as well. In fact, you had a full-time spread on a few months ago I think in the UK on biohacking where they called you the alphas alpha, I think, from memory, Ben.

Ben:  Oh, geez. Gosh, I guess that's better than being the beta's beta. Well, this whole thing looks amazing. I can't wait to just hop on a plane and come over there. From what I understand, you don't have to jump through any crazy injections and treatments to come over there and do it. I'm going to be there. A whole bunch of other speakers are going to be there like Tim alluded to. Tim's going to be there. This whole VIP experience looks just amazing. I'll put a link to it if you go to BenGreenfieldFitness.com/TimGray. But, you can also get access to a lot of the recordings and stuff from the event and from previous events. So, it's all there on their website. So, I'll link to that. I'll link to Tim stuff and to everything else we talked about. If you go to BenGreenfieldFitness.com/TimGray. And, if you have questions on these devices, any of your own little tips to add, feel free to leave your comments, and your questions, and your feedback over there.

Tim, thanks for coming on for sharing with us what UK's leading biohacker is up to and for putting this event on.

Tim:  Yeah, no worries. Thanks for having me, Ben. It's awesome.

Whilst I'm a biohacker, and biohackers are known for using all of the tech, and gadgets, and supplements, and everything, I really like to take it back to basics wherever possible. Because how our ancestors lived meant that they survived and we made it to this point. So, my belief is that biohacking is essentially mimicking nature by using technology to mimic nature such as if you don't have a garden, you were using an earthing mouse pad, or if you don't have clean air, you get an air filter. Or, if you don't see sunrise and sunset, you have a red-light therapy stack, et cetera, et cetera.

So, my daily routine, I will run through and explain why each of the things I have in there. But, bear in mind, I try to keep it simplistic. So, upon waking, I hydrate with reverse osmosis water that has hypertonic added to it. Now, the binders is chlorella specifically which is an algae that has an affinity to metals. It also binds to household toxins, pesticides, herbicides, and mycotoxins. And, because chlorella is a living organism, it binds to toxic metals but not essential minerals. I also take it when I eat seafood for this reason as well. So, I start the day the moment I wake with water and binders. And now, the hypertonic by Quinton labs is the perfect way to supplement minerals and trace elements at low doses. It supports your adrenals on waking and it supports detoxification as well.

Now, depending on my location and the bedroom and the natural lighting, I wear my blue-blocking glasses when I wake and I keep them on until I'm ready to roll. This ensures that I keep my circadian rhythm in check. Now, as soon as I've gone downstairs, I have my non-fat soluble supplements such as my DAO enzyme. Now, because of the genetic disposition, I often have histamine issues with aged meats or whatnot. And, they give me headaches or a stuffy nose. The DAO enzyme helps with that. It also ensures that my heart rate variability is high and my resting heart rate is low. I also take trimethylglycine, which is a methyl donor and assists with detoxification energy production. And, it actually helps me feel great. I rate it as my top number one supplement of all time.

Now, once I've had my non-fat soluble supplements, I have my Bulletproof style coffee with butter, MCT, and collagen. And, this is breaking my fast. And, I have my fat-soluble supplements like astaxanthin for instance with it. Now, because I'm a hard gainer and I find it very, very difficult to put on weight, I have to eat a lot, a very fast metabolism. So, I'm really focused on eating as much protein as I can. And, that's usually around 2 to 250 grams protein a day. So, I like adding collagen and various other proteins to my foods. This just ensures I hit these goals each day.

Next is my daily reflection. That's one of my best and favorite biohacks of all time. Now, inner work is something amazing. And, as Ben and I discussed in the podcast, if you don't deal with what's going on the inside, it's very difficult to deal with what's going on on the outside. So, if something triggers me, or confuses me, or upsets me, or one of many things like this, each morning after I've had my Bulletproof style coffee, I will sit down and reflect. And, I call it my Silence Time. And, that's for 10 minutes where I close my eyes and just sit in silence. And, I can think through anything. But, if there's something that's triggered me, I reflect and ask myself why. And now, that's obvious because it's very easy to do but when you look at it in the mindset that why did this trigger me, what did this tell me about me, and what insecurities could it have come from, I find that I am optimizing on a daily basis and one by one tackling things that trigger me. As a result, I'm finding myself to be much calmer and much more stoic. And, stoicism is part of the biohacking mindset, in my opinion.

I also sit down and do my visualizations. And, that is to picture things that I want to achieve in my life or states that I want to be in. And, this goes on for about five minutes. And, I also have my affirmations, which I read through every day which takes me seven minutes. And, these affirmations are very, very powerful because I find myself changing over a period of time for the things that I wish to be. Once I finish these things, this is about half an hour in total. I do my breathwork practice. And, I have a device called Airofit. No affiliate. It helps you train your lung strength and capacity. It's a little device you put in your mouth. Now, I am a proponent of nose breathing, not mouth breathing. And, I mouth tape at night to make sure that I do breathe through my nose. It actually helps in my sleep significantly. But, this device is for the mouth. And, because you're only using it for a few minutes a day, mouth breathing in those few minutes a day isn't an issue. Anyway, this device helps you track over a period of time, your progression and quantifies your breath work. So, for the traditional biohacker, it's a great tool for that.

Next, I jump onto my Roman chair and do my stretches. And, I've recently started using a Vitruvian trainer. It's called Vitruvian form. It's a resistance training device where it works with eccentric and concentric for weight training and stretching, and rowing machine, and everything all in one. It's actually really amazing. And, I am in the gym two to three times a week with a specific protocol that's been put together to help me realign my posture and for my body gains, goals. And, two times a week depending on the day and how I'm feeling in my workload, I have a hyperbaric oxygen session. And, that's for one and a half hours. And, I do that at 1.4 atmospheric pressures. This really rejuvenates me. And, if I've had a tough day mentally strained or if I've recently had a flight, then this really picks me up before I hit the hay in the evening.

During this time, I'm sitting down and reading. I have a thing where I ensure that I read 20 pages every single day. Because if you're not feeding your brain, you're going backwards in my opinion. So, it's really important to keep your brain alive and to exercise it as well as your body. So, 20 pages a day turns into two books a month, something like that. Although last year, I read 53 books.

Then once I finished reading, I jump in front of the red-light stack and often have methylene blue transcription in my mouth as well. I like to do this in the morning because it stimulates me. I find that it helps me heal. And, if I have it in the evening, it affects my sleep. I find that my heart rate is slightly increased probably about five beats a minute and my heart rate variability is probably about 30% lower. I think a lot of people don't seem to realize that red-light therapy can stimulate you and keep you awake or make you be a little bit more restless at night. So, if you are experiencing this or if you do use red-light at night, I would recommend you trying it first thing in the morning instead.

Now, three times a week I also use a Neti Pot. And, that's just with saline solution to clear my sinuses. I also add colloidal silver and one drop of iodine, leukocidin to be specific, and this helps keep my sinuses clear and healthy especially with current pandemic. Afterwards I have my aminos. And, I'm a big fan of aminos. It's a staple for me just like with Ben. And, it's really important for fueling your muscles and supporting your endocrine system. It aids faster recovery. It helps fire up my brain without stimulating it. It actually improves my sleep as well. And, it's especially good for vegans. Often vegans don't have enough protein necessarily bioavailable protein. And, if they're fermented source aminos, then you assimilate them very, very easily and quickly. So, I found vegans bouncing down the road after having them in the past. So, I really recommend trying some aminos.

By this point, I am working in the morning and I have a rebounder next to my desk, my standing desk so that I'm keeping my lymphatic system flowing, which aids detoxification and keeps my brain active actually. Now, I make sure that I practice breathwork while I am on the rebounder. And, I have my mouth taped so that I'm practicing nose breathing. It's very, very difficult to actually trampoline with your mouth taped because you default to it to breathing through your mouth often. So, I've been practicing for this for a long time.

My breakfast consists of things such as duck eggs, which is a big one for me because duck eggs generally have higher protein and much cleaner. They're generally not factory farmed like chickens. I have nitrate-free bacon and I take an aniracetam at the same time. Well, typically, I have chicken breasts with grated ginger in it. Afterwards, I have a whey protein shake with A2 protein raw milk. So, I find this to be much better, A1 protein I don't do so well with. I work for an hour solidly to clear up the quick emails and quick distractions that I might have through for the day. And, I have a grounding pad on my standing desk that I have my wrists on the whole time. Then I go outside and I get walking. And, I try to get in 10,000 steps a day, but it really does depend on my workload. During this time, I take my shoes off and I'm walking in the grass in the park nearby. And also, I have many walking meetings as well. I find that this keeps my brain active, it helps me get my steps in and not being a lazy man working in the house all day.

My lunch is predominantly meat these days and it's usually a rib eye with some greens and some cheese. It's all organic sustainable farmed meat from local farms and usually with one veg on the side. But, that's it. I find that I do much better on a predominantly meat-based diet. I also make my own sources, things.

Now, I'm very strict in my calendar and I take calls between 2:00 and 5:00 p.m., two days a week. The rest of the time is for head-down work or various other things I have going on for work. I find that calls and meetings really distract me from my day and make me much less efficient. So, minimizing this and blocking out times for them really has helped.

I finish work at 6:30 p.m. sharp. This means I respect my evenings and squeeze more into the day. I become significantly more productive as a result. I have my dinner just before sunset. And then, as sunsets, I put my blue-blocking glasses on. If I have dinner later than 6:30 p.m., then my heart rate variability is probably about 30% lower and my resting heart rate is 10 to 12 beats higher. Now, this is based on work by Dr. Satchin Panda from the book, “The Circadian Code” where with rodents, he gave them two sets of rodent meals. One could eat whatever they liked throughout the whole day 24 hours a day and another set of rodents had the same amount of food but limited to a six-hour window. Now, the mice that had the food in the restricted time actually lost weight. Now, this is because apparently there you produce up to 50 times less insulin after sunset because certain genes turn off. As a result, you have higher blood sugar through the night and you're stirring that fat over a period of time. So, because I like to stay lean while working on building my muscle, I don't eat after 6:30 as a result.

Now, preparing for sleep means you need to prepare during the day. And, that means winding down in the evening. That means not using too many devices or watching films that stimulate you or will put you into fight or flight mode such as watching war films or films with killing. That damages your sleep significantly. Also, when I go to bed, I have a kill switch for the whole house, so it turns off the wi-fi, the wall sockets. I turn my phone off and my sleep is 15% better consistently as a result. My Oura scores are 92 to 95 daily except for when I'm traveling and it comes down about 10 points. I also have blackout blinds and a face mask as well because I find that I sleep much better. And, if I'm sleeping much later than sunset, the blackout blinds obviously helped me have the amount of sleep that I need to have. Quality sleep is amazing. Before bed, I take trimethylglycine about 1.5 grams, which also because of my genetic component of MTHFR gene, the trimethylglycine helps improve my heart rate variability about 20%.

I always drink reverse osmosis water and I use hypertonic throughout the day. I use digestive enzymes with ox bile to support my high fat and high protein diet. And, I find that my digestion has improved significantly as a result. In the house, there's no lights on after 7:00 p.m. And, in my bedroom and bathroom, I only have automatic red lights so that I don't mess up my circadian rhythm. And then, I lockdown, and sleep, and wash/rinse and repeat until it happens again.

As you know, central to biohacking is tracking. As what you don't measure, you can't manage. Subjective score is better than no score but devices like the Oura Ring for sleep an Airofit for breath work, air quality monitors for optimizing your oxygen, and the myriad of blood tests available means you can be very diagnostic and it optimize far more efficiently and effectively. It also spins up your wins and confirms them.

I like to collate my data into a spreadsheet which helps me spot trends and correlations across all of the devices and all of the tests. And, it starts with my daily Oura scores. If my readiness is low, I take it easy and I don't train. If my readiness score is high, I push harder. My sleep score is usually around 92 to 94 out of 100 because I assure that I check all of the variables that might affect it. If I have a day of a low score, I figure out what negatively impacted it and then flip it. Consistency is key. My key data points that I watch closest are obviously my heart rate variability because it's one of the best predictors for overall health. My resting heart rate, my sleep score, my readiness score, I pay attention to my deep sleep and REM sleep ratios specifically and really look to optimize these as much as I can. I also monitor my carbon dioxide levels in my room overnight and also in my office. And, I notice that when carbon dioxide levels are higher, my brain fog is also higher. This is something where the spreadsheet really helps me.

I also track my mental clarity on a subjective level in the spreadsheet every day and I also check my cellular metabolomics tests specifically. I also check my hormones twice a year and my metabolic age as well. Most tests I do twice a year, but standard blood works I seem to do every two to three months now, which includes liver and kidney functions. When you combine all of this data, it really does give you a strong power to be able to optimize on all fronts. But, I also do work with functional practitioners as well to ensure that I am not missing anything that a medical professional would see. That's a typical day for me and I hope you found some interesting points in there.

Ben:  Alright folks, until next time. I'm Ben Greenfield along with Tim Gray signing out from BenGreenfieldFitness.com. Have an amazing week.

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31 March 2022

Tim Gray is the UK’s Leading Biohacker and Founder of the Health Optimisation Summit (use code BEN to save 20%). As a psychology specialist and a successful businessman, Tim founded and invested in multiple 6-figure businesses, including digital marketing agencies and London’s first private Hyperbaric Oxygen Clinic.

Tim Gray is known for his detailed tracking of more than 35+ biomarkers per day, is frequently in the mainstream media regarding practical, trackable, and immediately apply-able health hacks, and is featured on over 30 podcasts a year.

After years spent self-healing his body from chronic health conditions through biohacking alone, Tim Gray embarked on a mission to educate and empower the masses. As such, he created The Health Optimisation Summit, Europe’s largest health conference that showcases the best speakers from the health, biohacking, fitness, longevity, nutrition, functional, and preventative medicine spaces (including yours truly) in order to provide people with the knowledge, tools, and resources to take their own health and performance to the next level.

During our discussion, a two-parter including both my interview with Tim and his follow-up solosode, you'll discover:

-Part 1: How Tim got interested in biohacking initially…07:35

  • Health crisis in 2010; bloating and food intolerances, brain fog
  • Place of need; illness the cause of action
  • 16-18 hour workdays, bad diet, etc.
  • Chronic kidney stones, fatigue, antibiotics
  • Doctors couldn't give any answers
  • Butter coffee
  • Hyperbaric oxygen therapy was a game-changer (use code BEN to save $500 off the Vitaeris)
  • Mercury poisoning causing mitochondria dysfunction
  • Chronic mouth breather; not getting enough oxygen
  • Surprisingly difficult to find access to chambers in the UK
  • Tim set up a clinic for personal use, found there was a legit demand for it
  • Eventually sold his shares in prior businesses because of conflicting lifestyles

-Tim's morning routine…16:45

-Tim's workday and go-to supplements…43:05

-Strategies for staying active throughout the day…48:47

-Cool features at Tim's summit in London…56:10

-New tech that will change the game in coming years…1:04:30

-What to expect with the VIP package for the event…1:06:40

  • Dinner with the speakers on Friday night
  • VIP room to hang out with the speakers, try out devices

-Biohacking scene in London…1:07:45

  • Not as well known as in the U.S.
  • More commonly known as “health optimization,” but “biohacking” is getting bigger and bigger

-Part 2: Tim Gray's daily biohacking routine…1:10:10

-And much more!…

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