October 16, 2021
My buddy and my guest on today's podcast—Sal Di Stefano—has a long history of podcasting with me, including on episodes such as:
- Fatherhood, Motherhood, Parenting, Home Schooling, Religion, Muscle Gain, Sourdough Bread & Much More With The Mind Pump Guys & Jessa Greenfield.
- Unschooling, Plant Medicine, Anti-Aging, Veganism vs. Carnivore & More With The Mind Pump Guys!
- The Official Edgy, Explicit & Epic Podcast With Me & The Mind Pump Crew: Longevity, Religion, Parenting, Biohacking, The Joe Rogan Debates, Snake Oil, Pseudoscience & Beyond.
- Six-Egg Breakfasts, Ketosis For Bodybuilders, Resetting Weed Tolerance, Kratom Experimentation & Much More With The Mind Pump Guys!
- The Mysterious Kuwait Muscle-Building Phenomenon, The Too-Much-Protein Myth, Anabolic Triggering Sessions & More With The Mind Pump Podcast Crew.
- The Mysterious Micro-Workouts, Turning On Your Butt, Overdosing With Melatonin & More With The Mind Pump Guys.
I've also been a guest on his Mind Pump podcast a handful of times as well, including on the episodes:
- Fatherhood, Parenting, Home Schooling & Religion With Ben & Jessa Greenfield
- Ben Greenfield On Putting On Several Pounds Of Muscle, Living A Long & High Quality Life, Ways To Slow Aging, Unschooling His Sons & MORE
- Ben Greenfield On Anti-Aging, Minimizing Jet Lag, Starting A Supplement Company & MUCH MORE!
- Ben Greenfield Bares All- His Rules For Life, Hacking His Penis, His Family Life, Religion & MORE
- Ben Greenfield On His Testicle Mishap, Bodybuilding Career, Personal Motivation, Greatest Challenge & MORE
- Ben Greenfield On Elevating Testosterone Levels, Achieving Epic Erections, Benefits Of Swimming Naked, Worthless Fitness Products, Raising Health Conscious Kids & MORE
Anyhow, Sal just wrote a book, entitled The Resistance Training Revolution: The No-Cardio Way to Burn Fat and Age-Proof Your Body―in Only 60 Minutes a Week. This new book promises to help you burn fat, build lean, sexy muscles, lose inches, and feel healthier, more energetic, and youthful than you ever have in your life…with a revolutionary new approach to resistance training.
In the book, Sal Di Stefano breaks down fitness misconceptions, shares his decades of industry knowledge, and brings you a comprehensive, accessible guidebook that will give you the body you’ve always wanted—in as little as 60 minutes a week. His book features:
- More than 60 fat-burning, metabolism-boosting workouts you can do at home to sculpt your body and maximize your health and longevity
- Raw fitness truths that will show you what works and what doesn’t. You’ll be shocked at how easy it is to build lean muscle and lose fat once you understand these truths, and once you train your body the right way
- The newly discovered health benefits of resistance training in terms of heart health, bone strength, joint protection, and especially anti-aging
- The exact formula for nutrition that makes losing fat, while sculpting your body a breeze and for the long term
- Dozens of self-assessments to track your progress, and much more
Sal Di Stefano is a personal trainer and co-founder of Mind Pump Media and co-host of Mind Pump, an online radio show/podcast that is dedicated to providing truthful fitness and health information. He is also the designer of the Muscular Adaptation Programming System (MAPS Fitness Products). Sal is dedicated to prioritizing health over appearance, and he aims to shift the direction of the fitness industry from aesthetic and insecurity-based to one based on self-love and self-care.
During this discussion, you'll discover:
-What you'll find in Sal's new book…06:45
-When and why Sal got into personal training…12:10
- 14 years old when he discovered dumbbells
- By age 19, was general manager of 24-hr fitness chains
- Started his own practice at age 22; goal was to merge fitness with wellness
- Fitness is the most unassuming form of self-improvement that exists
- Mind Pump is meant to appeal to the average person looking to better themselves
-How motives for pursuing fitness make all the difference in its efficacy…18:30
- It's not that people lack discipline; they approach fitness with the wrong motives
- Bad relationships are equal to a pack of cigarettes per day
- If it's for purely aesthetic reasons, it will wear off eventually
- The motive must be for self-care, self-love, and long-term self-improvement
-A realistic timeframe for building muscle…31:30
- There's a wide genetic window that defines a response to training
- Younger folks respond faster
- Are you new to exercise, or is it more familiar?
- 8-10 lbs of new muscle the first year on average
- You'll reach a point where you peak with muscle building
- Muscle building is the only pro-positive tissue form of exercise
- Testosterone levels as a whole have been dropping for decades
- Huge difference between natural muscle building vs. synthetic via drugs
- Simply sending a signal to the brain that muscle building is going on will enhance metabolism
- High-stress lifestyle inhibits muscle building
-The essential equipment for a one-year muscle-building regimen…45:50
- Squat rack
- Barbells
- Dumbbells
- Adjustable bench
- Full body workout 3 days per week max
- Long hikes and walks
- Mind Pump MAPS programs, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS OCR, or performance programs
-Sal's thoughts on electrical muscle stimulation devices and wearables…51:55
- Benefit to avoid atrophy while injured
- Not much benefit to building muscle
- Neubie device
- Marc Pro
- Compex
- Katalyst suit
-The efficacy of blood-flow restriction (BFR) training…57:13
- BFR training podcasts:
- 1 Cheap & Easy Underground Training Method For Growth Hormone Release, 5 Biohacks to Increase Strength in 60 Seconds, 7 Exercises for the Eyes to Radically Enhance Stamina & Speed with Kusha Karvandi.
- The Official KAATSU Episode: Everything You Need To Know About How To Use Blood Flow Restriction For Muscle Gain, Injury Recovery, Testosterone, Growth Hormone & Much More! with John Doolittle and Steven Munatones.
- Kaatsu bands (use code BEN to save 5%)
- BFR bands (use code BEN20 to save 20%)
-Thoughts on super-slow training…1:00:07
- Body by Science by Doug McGuff
- Originated during WWII while rationing iron and steel
- If the reps go too long, it slows the muscle-building effects
- Intensity is an important variable to training
- Olympic lifting is the most studied/funded strength sport
- Benefit to practicing the motion at lower intensity vs. high-intensity training
- Physiological Differences Between Low Versus High Skeletal Muscle Hypertrophic Responders to Resistance Exercise Training: Current Perspectives and Future Research Directions
-Hyperthermia's effects on muscle gain and maintenance…1:05:25
- Won't build muscle in a profound way
- Simulates hormetic effect of exercise to a small degree
- Being overly reliant on one training modality limits its effects
- Do the hard stuff, then do the fun stuff to put the icing on the cake
-The most ridiculous, asinine, and downright silly fitness trends today…1:12:55
-And much more!…
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Click here for the full written transcript of this podcast episode.
Resources from this episode:
- The Resistance Training Revolution
- Mind Pump MAPS (Muscular Adaptation Programming System) Programs
- Mind Pump Podcast
- BGF podcast with Mind Pump:
- Fatherhood, Motherhood, Parenting, Home Schooling, Religion, Muscle Gain, Sourdough Bread & Much More With The Mind Pump Guys & Jessa Greenfield.
- Unschooling, Plant Medicine, Anti-Aging, Veganism vs. Carnivore & More With The Mind Pump Guys!
- The Official Edgy, Explicit & Epic Podcast With Me & The Mind Pump Crew: Longevity, Religion, Parenting, Biohacking, The Joe Rogan Debates, Snake Oil, Pseudoscience & Beyond.
- Six-Egg Breakfasts, Ketosis For Bodybuilders, Resetting Weed Tolerance, Kratom Experimentation & Much More With The Mind Pump Guys!
- The Mysterious Kuwait Muscle-Building Phenomenon, The Too-Much-Protein Myth, Anabolic Triggering Sessions & More With The Mind Pump Podcast Crew.
- The Mysterious Micro-Workouts, Turning On Your Butt, Overdosing With Melatonin & More With The Mind Pump Guys.
- Ben Greenfield on the Mind Pump Podcast:
- Fatherhood, Parenting, Home Schooling & Religion With Ben & Jessa Greenfield
- Ben Greenfield On Putting On Several Pounds Of Muscle, Living A Long & High Quality Life, Ways To Slow Aging, Unschooling His Sons & MORE
- Ben Greenfield On Anti-Aging, Minimizing Jet Lag, Starting A Supplement Company & MUCH MORE!
- Ben Greenfield Bares All- His Rules For Life, Hacking His Penis, His Family Life, Religion & MORE
- Ben Greenfield On His Testicle Mishap, Bodybuilding Career, Personal Motivation, Greatest Challenge & MORE
- Ben Greenfield On Elevating Testosterone Levels, Achieving Epic Erections, Benefits Of Swimming Naked, Worthless Fitness Products, Raising Health Conscious Kids & MORE
– Podcasts:
- 1 Cheap & Easy Underground Training Method For Growth Hormone Release, 5 Biohacks to Increase Strength in 60 Seconds, 7 Exercises for the Eyes to Radically Enhance Stamina & Speed with Kusha Karvandi.
- The Official KAATSU Episode: Everything You Need To Know About How To Use Blood Flow Restriction For Muscle Gain, Injury Recovery, Testosterone, Growth Hormone & Much More! with John Doolittle and Steven Munatones.
– Book and Gear:
- Body by Science by Doug McGuff
- Squat Rack
- Barbells
- Dumbbells
- Adjustable Bench
- Neubie Device
- Marc Pro
- Compex
- Katalyst Suit
- Kaatsu bands (use code BEN to save 5%)
- BFR bands (use code BEN20 to save 20%)
– Other Resources:
- Social Relationships And Health
- Social Relationships And Mortality Risk: A Meta-Analytic Review
- Physiological Differences Between Low Versus High Skeletal Muscle Hypertrophic Responders To Resistance Exercise Training: Current Perspectives And Future Research Directions
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Hey Ben! Any recommendations on how to maintain upper body muscle using the 1/9th rule you mentioned?
I’m going through a posterior labrum tear recovery and probably won’t be able to hit the weights or do my pull ups and push-ups for another four months I’m thinking… Any insight or recommendations on this would be amazing!
PS Your Nov 4 podcast with Angelo was awesome so I’ve definitely increased my protein intake a little and I’m taking at least a serving of Kions AAs daily
full body workouts were discussed but not suggested sets per body part.
what do you recommend?
thanks
I love Sal’s reason behind zeroing in on the exercises you appreciate versus the exercises that are “awesome” or generally productive.
About the first 15 minutes of the podcast was a combination of Ben touting his products (I understand the need for this) and then went into the “Bromance” of how much Ben and Sal love each other. My advice keep the mutual admiration, which I’m sure is sincere down to a sentence or two. That’s really all that’s necessary or desired by the audience.
Thank you for your honest feedback!
I love Sal’s point of focusing on the workouts you enjoy versus the workouts that are “the best” or most efficient.