Several years ago, on the episode “10-Pass Ozone, Peptides, Blood Irradiation, Constitutional Assessments & Much More!“, I interviewed Dr. Ahvie Herskowitz, a former Clinical Professor of Medicine at UC San Francisco (UCSF) and founder of Anatara Medicine, a multidisciplinary integrative center in San Francisco.

Anatara Medicine is one of the most comprehensive IV treatment centers in Northern California, and they treat the most difficult chronic health conditions using a unique integrative approach and a host of modern medical technologies and tools.

Ahvie is the personal physician of some of the Bay Area's top biohackers, celebrities, actors, and longevity enthusiasts, along with a wide range of patients looking for eradication of issues like mold, spike protein, fungus, viral particles, and much more. His training includes a medical degree from The Albert Einstein College of Medicine and Chief Residency in Anatomic Pathology and Internal Medicine and followed by fellowship training in Cardiology at The Johns Hopkins Medical Center.

During his 12 years at Johns Hopkins, Ahvie was co-appointed in the Departments of Medicine and Molecular Immunology and Microbiology. His clinical responsibilities were complemented by directing a multidisciplinary NIH-sponsored research team in the study of molecular immunological and genomic mechanisms of inflammation and cell injury, autoimmunity, transplantation, congestive heart failure, and myocarditis.

Today, Ahvie's back, and we discuss:

• The crazy biohacking and medical treatments Ahvie performed on me before we began recording the show.
• Ultrasound-guided injections and hydro dissection with photobiomodulation with the Weber laser into joints or soft tissue and/or intravenously, along with the new upgraded Kimera Exosomes with higher mRNA expression and added aminos.
• A variant of extracorporeal blood oxygenation and ozonation (EBOO), called plasma filtration and detoxification or PFD, which uses a more complex filter and allows for more individualization of rate and ozone concentration. 
• Details on very early cancer detection via liquid biopsies. Ahvie is beta testing FDA-qualified assays that go beyond older circulating tumor cell tests from Europe and speaks more about the future for detection as this gets validated and long-term follow-up data are available in the early cancer detection space.
• Anatara Medicine's unique approach to immune modulation, system biology, holistic wellness, and Ahvie's take on the systematic erosion of our national health over the past 5 decades based on his story and perspective as a physician and scientist, for the past 45 years.
• And much more (details below!).

During this episode, you'll also get a chance to see a fascinating discussion that Ahvie and I have over Zoom with Dr. Shawn P. Tierney. Shawn is a musculoskeletal sonologist and leader of multiple regenerative medicine clinics in Southern California, specializing in ultrasound-guided procedures such as stem cells, PRP, spinal injections, and nerve hydro dissection. He is also an expert educator for physicians and sonographers in musculoskeletal ultrasound and serves as a faculty member of MSKUS. In addition to practicing chiropractic medicine for over 15 years, Shawn has worked extensively in sports medicine, rehabilitation, and nutrition. Shawn received his degree from the Los Angeles College of Chiropractic Medicine. Prior to studying chiropractic medicine, Shawn was an environmental organic chemist and a personal trainer since 1986.

Not only does Shawn have experience as a nationally-ranked bodybuilder, he also actively assists in the recovery of many professional athletes. Shawn has treated members of the U.S. Water Polo Team, the U.S. Olympic Swim Team, and professional athletes from the MLB and NFL.

In today's conversation with Ahvie, we discuss groundbreaking treatments, delving into ultrasound-guided injections, Kimera Exosomes, and the promising horizon of early cancer detection. With Shawn's insights, we explore his extensive knowledge in musculoskeletal ultrasound and his decades in sports medicine. From the shifting health landscape over the past five decades to the latest advancements in cancer detection, this episode is packed with invaluable insights for those passionate about holistic wellness, biohacking, and the future of medicine.

During our discussion, you'll discover:

-Dr. Ahvie Herskowitz…06:53

• :The founder of Anatara Medicine in San Francisco
• Ben met him at a longevity conference in Vegas
• Recorded a podcast episode with him in 2019
  • 10-Pass Ozone, Peptides, Blood Irradiation, Constitutional Assessments & Much More!
  • An East meets West medical approach
• Ben met him again in his facility and recorded another episode
• They talked about
  • Extracorporeal Blood Oxygenation Ozonation (EBOO)
  • Plasma filtration
  • Detoxification
  • Metal chelation
  • Early cancer detection protocols via liquid biopsies
  • Acupuncture
  • Qi gong style treatments

-What is the EBOO device?…09:39

• The EBOO device – extracorporeal blood oxygenation and ozonation device
• Machine has two components
  • The place where the blood receives the ozone
  • Filters for bacteria, viruses, fungi, mold, and heavy metals
• The filter is still controversial
• Testing is done by third party groups
• ACAM – American College for the Advancement in Medicine
• After going through filter, the blood returns to the body
• Malaysia is the epicenter of EBOO technology
  • They are exceptionally safe, but they're much lower in continuous ozone concentrations
• A Malaysian group founded EBOO about 25 or 30 years ago
  • TrigenO3
• The art is in the tubing and in the filter
  • The flow has to be proper and consistent
• Modifications have been built into the tubing size and into the filter
• The tubing and filter have to be ozone resistant
• If it's not ozone resistant, you will deliver byproducts of the tubing into the body
• The bucket on the floor contains effluent
  • It’s catching what's gone through the filter

-More about the laboratory testing…21:04

• The blood is examined before and after
• Darkfield microscopy – looks at the shape of red cells and the quality of plasma
• Previous podcast with Dr. Ahvie Herskowitz
  • 10-Pass Ozone, Peptides, Blood Irradiation, Constitutional Assessments & Much More!
• Chronic immune system is not measured by the C reactive protein
• Complement cascade is the best measure for chronic disorders like biotoxins, mold, Lyme, viruses, occult tooth infections
• C4A – the most common marker for chronic inflammation
• Other markers for oxidative stress – Ferritin
• Ozone is exceptionally safe
• If there is a fatigue after ozone treatment – the oxidative burst was too much to be handled by antioxidant stores
• It’s not a good idea to take antioxidants before you use ozone
• Testing antioxidant stores with vitamin C
• Perque vitamin C powder 
• Laboratory tests for the validated biomarkers of longevity
  • Hemoglobin A1C
  • Blood sugar
  • Vitamin D
  • Ferritin
  • Homocysteine
  • Urine pH
• Vivoo urine testing strips
• If early morning urine pH is not between 6.5-7.5, you've been acidic the whole night and then you're making 25% less protein
• Alkaline water generators are a marketing coup but alkaline water is neutralized immediately in the stomach
• If someone's acidic in the morning, say it's below 6.5
  • Start with water with lemon and salt in the morning
  • Then apple cider vinegar
  • The effect is alkalinity
• Lemons and apple cider vinegar induce an alkaline reaction in the body

-What are hermetic stressors?…39:21

• Ahvie is a fan of hermetic stressors
• Chemotherapy started because somebody found that one child with leukemia responded to nitrogen mustard
• Oncologist doubled the dose on the next patient and then quadrupled the dose on the next patient
  • The more, the better
• The bio doesn’t work that way
• Podcast with Dr. David Minkoff:
  • The Search For The Perfect Protein (The Surprising Truth About A Little-Known Supernutrient For Weight Loss, Mood, Fatigue, Insomnia, and More)
• Hormetic effect – you can have a low dose of something irrelevant or a high dose of something that induces negative side effects
  • Too much ozone can induce blood clotting
  • Excessive endurance exercise is not good 
• Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity by Peter Attia
• Some easy interventions are fundamental
  • Ozone (use code BEN10 to save 10%)
  • NAD
  • Cold immersion
  • Sauna
  • Exercise
• Ben’s cold immersion protocols

-The influence of genetics on longevity…45:58

• 1 in 5,000 people live to 100 years
• It was always thought that these people were in Japan, the Caucasus, Sardinia, etc. 
• Today, there are inner-city centenarians, not necessarily with healthy lifestyle
• The comparison of the affected aorta of a 60-year–old and 104-year-old
  • Absolutely the same
  • The question is why a 60-year-old died and the 104-year-old is getting the disease 40 years later
• Genomic testing to see what someone's risk is
• There are actual markers that you can pull up that literally translate to increased lifespan despite lifestyle
  • Deal with senescence
  • Deal with insulin sensing
  • With glucose metabolism
  • With cell repair mechanisms
  • Are you pro-inflammatory?
  • Do you have mutations of TNF-alpha, IL-6, IL-1 receptors?
  • Are you protected against autoimmunity or not?
• There are multiple detoxification pathways
• Our epigenome is now bombarded with toxic things
• Chelation and collation

-A look at Ben’s blood ozonation and oxygenation…52:58

• Blood sugar testing
  • Rapidity of the oxidative burst is muted by having a normal blood sugar
• IV with a complex nutritive drip
• Urine testing for toxic molds
  • Around two-thirds of people walking around have toxic mold in the system
• Test for genetic susceptibility to mold
  • Ochratoxin
  • Aflatoxin
  • Gliotoxin
  • A few half a dozen other mold species which are the most toxic
• Quicksilver Ultra Binder (use code GREENFIELD15 to save 15%)
  • The binder has the ability to attract the mold and bind it
• Taking it out of the system 
  • Pooping
  • Sauna
  • Trampoline
  • Exercise

-What is the Weber laser?…01:00:02

• Ahvie wanted to find fundamental ways of activating the energy cycle
  • Oxygen and NAD
  • Light energy and photo modulation
• Weber laser is the best-studied laser device
• Different components/ frequencies of the laser (rainbow IV session)
  • Between 500 and 1,000 nanometers
  • Red
  • Blue
  • Green
  • Yellow
  • UV
  • Infrared
• There are different frequencies of light
• Rainbow IV session
  • 15 minutes for each frequency
  • Interacts with the yellow in the vitamin C and the magnesium and the drips, activating the energy drip more
• Podcast with Dr. Karim Dhanani:
  • The Real Truth About Genetic Testing, Why 23AndMe Is Not Enough (& The Most Advanced Genetic Test You Should Get Instead For Customizing Your Exercise, Your Diet, Your Supplements & More!).

-Ahvie’s background…01:02:17

• European background, born in Israel
• Left law school and started medical education
• Observed for a while, found a niche, and wanted to do it in a European style
• Did three full years of pathology to mimic the serious anatomical training of German doctors
• Wanted a little bit of the older flavor and concept like house calls
• Went to Yale for medicine and then cardiology at Hopkins
• Became an immunologist and a cardiologist; experts at myocarditis – inflammation of heart tissue
• Doing transplants and invasive cardiology
• Pharmacists in Germany are equally trained in pharmaceuticals as in homeopathic and herbal medicine
• Professor of medicine at UCSF as an honor and a privilege; taught for 16 years
• None of his cardiology fellows were listening to anything he talked about on integrative cardiology
• Got involved with integrative medicine or functional medicine
• Started the world's first nonprofit pharmaceutical company for disease of poverty
• Chinese versions of archetypal medicine and Ayurvedic medicine
• European clinics and retreats
• Paracelsus clinic
• Podcast with Robyn Openshaw:
  • Fringe Medicine, Blood Ozone, Water Fasting, Hyperthermia & More: What Does Europe Know About Medicine & Cancer That Americans Don’t?
• Podcast with Dr. Dominik Nischwitz:
  • It’s All In Your Mouth: How Your Teeth Are Impacting Your Immune System, Sleep, Performance, Inflammation & Much More (& What You Can Do About It With Holistic Dentistry).
• Dr. Eniko Loud, a holistic dentist in Phoenix who's done bacterial profiling of Ben's mouth
• Podcast with Dr. Eniko Loud:
  • The Exciting Future Of Holistic Dentistry (& How Ben Greenfield Is Re-Inventing His Mouth!) With Dr. Eniko Loud.
• Disease begins in the mouth (gut)

-Developments in the early detection of cancer…1:16:28

• Got interested in early detection of cancer; Ahvie's first patient was the first employee of the non-profit that he ran
• The field is now ready to be completely changed
  • Liquid biopsies
• Circulating tumor cells predate when you can find the tumor in an image
• In the blood, you can separate out the tumor cells and the conductors, called the tumor stem cells
• Genomic testing on tumors
• It's as simple as a blood draw to detect cancer
• Blood testing for cancer progression monitoring
• RGCC, a company in Europe for cancer detection screening
  • The oncologists don't believe in the test results
• MRIs are limited to 3, 4 millimeters
• Anything smaller can be detected by liquid biopsies

  Dr. H and Ben – Anatara balcony

-And much more…

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Resources from this episode:

– Dr. Ahvie Herskowitz:

• Anatara Medicine
• EBOO – Extracorporeal Blood Oxygenation Ozonation
• 10-Pass Ozone, Peptides, Blood Irradiation, Constitutional Assessments & Much More!

– Podcasts:

• The Search For The Perfect Protein (The Surprising Truth About A Little-Known Supernutrient For Weight Loss, Mood, Fatigue, Insomnia, and More)
• Fringe Medicine, Blood Ozone, Water Fasting, Hyperthermia & More: What Does Europe Know About Medicine & Cancer That Americans Don’t?
• It’s All In Your Mouth: How Your Teeth Are Impacting Your Immune System, Sleep, Performance, Inflammation & Much More (& What You Can Do About It With Holistic Dentistry).
• The Exciting Future Of Holistic Dentistry (& How Ben Greenfield Is Re-Inventing His Mouth!) With Dr. Eniko Loud.
• The Real Truth About Genetic Testing, Why 23AndMe Is Not Enough (& The Most Advanced Genetic Test You Should Get Instead For Customizing Your Exercise, Your Diet, Your Supplements & More!).

– Books:

• Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity by Peter Attia

– Other Resources:

• Perque Vitamin C Powder
• Quicksilver Ultra Binder (use code GREENFIELD15 to save 15%)
• Salt
• Apple Cider Vinegar
• Ozone (use code BEN10 to save 10%)
• NAD Regen
• Morozko Forge
• Sauna
• Trampoline
• Vivoo
• ACAM – American College for the Advancement in Medicine
• Paracelsus Clinic
• RGCC

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