July 6, 2023
Darshan Shah, MD is a renowned surgeon, published author, tech entrepreneur, wellness specialist, and founder and CEO of Next Health. (Mention “Ben Greenfield” when you call to book your service and receive 20% off. Discount can be used for the following: The Longevity Protocol, Stem Cells, or Exosomes – discounts cannot be combined. Promotion ends 1/1/2024.)
A graduate of esteemed institutions such as Mayo Clinic, Harvard Business School, and Singularity University, Dr. Shah has an expansive medical and business background that allows him to connect with patients on a more profound level.
He's also a three-peat guest who first appeared on the podcast in 2019 when he and I discussed the opening of his first Next Health clinic, and again later when the two of us co-hosted a panel during my Boundless book tour in 2020, where we delved into topics ranging from sleep biohacks to spiritual disciplines and parenting strategies.
Having performed over 10,000 surgeries, his dexterity and expertise are unquestionable, yet what really sets Darshan apart is his unwavering commitment to optimizing health and extending lifespan, a mission that finds its manifestation in Next Health.
Established with the aim to revolutionize the conventional approach to healthcare, Next Health focuses on preventive, personalized care and longevity.
Each clinic offers a comprehensive array of cutting-edge health services, from genetic testing to biohacking technologies, all tailored to meet individual health needs. By harnessing the power of modern medical advancements, Next Health's clinics are designed to not just treat disease but to foster optimal wellness and extend the healthy human lifespan. Since its inception, Next Health has steadfastly remained at the forefront of the healthcare revolution, guiding individuals on their journey to superior health and well-being.
Dr. Shah is a wellness specialist and an advocate for health optimization. He weaves these passions together to inspire a broader audience as a published author and through the innovative health solutions offered by Next Health. Engage with Dr. Shah and me in this episode to delve deeper into his fascinating journey and transformative approach to healthcare. This episode is chock full of awesome information such as how to protect yourself from the harmful effects of travel, optimizing mitochondrial function for longevity by stacking stem cells and NAD, Next Health’s new Maui Four Seasons location and how it came to be, and much more. Enjoy!
During our discussion, you'll discover:
-Dr. Darshan Shah…05:07
- Next Health (Mention “Ben Greenfield” when you call to book your service and receive 20% off. Discount can be used for the following: The Longevity Protocol, Stem Cells, or Exosomes – discounts cannot be combined. Promotion ends 1/1/2024)
- Dr. Shah's new health facility in Maui
- Next Health was introduced to Ben by Khalil Rafati
-Why Dr. Shah opened up his new facility in Maui…07:02
- Next Health has facilities in New York, Los Angeles, and some international license deals
- What kind of services are available at Next Health Maui?
- “Travel is one of the most toxic and damaging things you can do to your body” – Dr. Shah
- How to mitigate stressful travel:
- Earthing and grounding
- Get into the ocean
- Red light
- Hyperbaric oxygen
- Minimize alcohol consumption
- Podcast with Frank Llosa:
- KetoneAid (code BEN auto-applied for free shipping up to $20)
- Kin Euphorics
-What’s the protocol at Next Health, and why do they start with ozone treatments?…13:37
- What happens during ozone treatments:
- Take 250 cc of your blood
- Expose it to ozone
- Put that same 250 cc back
- NuCalm Treatment
- Benefits of ozone treatment
- Reduces inflammation
- Primes the immune system
- Kills bacteria, fungi, and viruses in the blood
- Rejuvenates the body
- Ozone treatment is commonly used nowadays for longevity; treatment can be 2-3 times a week
- Ben uses ozone suppositories when traveling
- Podcast with Ian Mitchell:
- Stems cell and exosome treatments
- A medical team evaluates your current state and recommends the best treatment protocol for patients
- Next Health Facilities also does
- Diagnostic testing
- Blood testing
- Genetic testing
- Gut microbiome testing, micronutrient levels
- Heavy metals testing
- Ozone treatments will not make you hypoglycemic
-Stem cell treatments that Ben had at the facility…19:50
- Umbilical cord-derived stem cells
- Why they chose umbilical cord stem cells
- Different ways of getting stem cells
- Autologous – from the same person, like mesenchymal from your fat or hematopoietic bone marrow
- Allogeneic – from another person
- Via IV or injected into your joints
- Systemic full-body stem cell IV is done in 15 to 20 minutes
- Transported in a cryo-freezing chamber
- Stacking stem cells with NAD and exosomes
- Exosomes are sourced from the same place as the stem cells, from Missouri
- Screening to prevent getting the wrong kind of exosomes
-The link between exosomes and mRNA…23:07
- Exosomes are packets within stem cells that contain signaling molecules
- Exosomes are extracted from within a stem cell
- The signaling molecules can be
- mRNA, which are short pieces of RNA
- Can be little pieces of protein
- Can be cytokines
- Stacking NAD can be before or after the stem cells with the exosomes but better if before
- NAD is a different cellular mechanism, helping mitochondria produce energy
- Three options for NAD: NR, NMN, and NAD3
- LifeForce by Tony Robbins and Peter Diamandis
- Podcast with Tony Robbins and Peter Diamandis
- Intranasal NAD
- What is the current legality of this supplement?
- FDA Crackdown – a lot of regulations on exosomes and stem cells
-Sleep and jetlag issues…29:05
- High-dose melatonin
- Kion Sleep
- IV treatments from Next Health to get enough sleep on the plane
- Timeshifter App – a game changer for international travel
- Caffeine, taurine, and red bull vodka.
-What are some of the cooler biohacking technologies coming down the pipeline…33:51
- Ketone and ketone alternatives
- The objective is to make a biohacking center
- Next Health Maui is putting up what would be called a Longevity Triad
- International Antiaging Systems (use code BGF15 to save 15%)
- Podcast with Phil Micans:
- Podcast with David Sinclair
- Podcast with Bryan Johnson
- Blueprint
- The End of Alzheimer's by Dale Bredesen
-What are some of the nonnegotiable things you can do to turn back biological aging?…38:10
- Turning back biological aging
- Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is a non-negotiable for a typical day at Next Health.
- (Mention “Ben Greenfield” when you call to book your service and receive 20% off. Discount can be used for the following: The Longevity Protocol, Stem Cells, or Exosomes – discounts cannot be combined. Promotion ends 1/1/2024.)
- Therapeutic plasma exchange is total plasma exchange
- Removing the old plasma and replacing it with brand new fresh albumin
- Therapeutic plasma exchange is a brand-new field in longevity
- Plasmapheresis – obtaining plasma from blood
- How it's working is taking out the old stuff and getting rid of it
-How hard is it to find locations that offer these treatments?…44:13
- Only very few people are doing it so it's hard to hunt down
- Podcast with Dr. Mark Urdahl and Dr. Tom Ingoglia
- Just like with ozone, it reduces the amount of inflammatory factors in the bloodstream
- At this time, plasma exchange is still expensive at around $8000 but will go down as the treatment gets more mainstream
- The goal is to have the treatment at all Next Health locations
-And much more…
- Next Health (Mention “Ben Greenfield” when you call to book your service and receive 20% off. Discount can be used for the following: The Longevity Protocol, Stem Cells, or Exosomes – discounts cannot be combined. Promotion ends 1/1/2024.)
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Resources from this episode:
- Next Health (Mention “Ben Greenfield” when you call to book your service and receive 20% off. Discount can be used for the following: The Longevity Protocol, Stem Cells, or Exosomes – discounts cannot be combined. Promotion ends 1/1/2024.)
- My Latest Sleep Biohacks, Habits, Routines, Rituals, Longevity Tips, Parenting Strategies, Spiritual Disciplines & More!
- A Biohacking Clinic Straight From The Deck Of Star Trek, The Minimum Effective Dose Of Exercise, How Ben Greenfield Fasts, Increasing Mitochondrial Density & Much More!
– Podcasts:
- Secrets Of The Billion Dollar Meal, Peptides For Tanning & Erections, Holotropic Breathwork, MDMA, Ketamine, Addiction Recovery & More With Khalil Rafati
- The New Ketone Healthy Alcohol Alternatives – How To Get All The Effects Of Alcohol *Without* Drinking Wine, Beer or Cocktails, With KetoneAid’s Frank Llosa.
- Quantum Biology, Breaking Performance Records, Reversing Alzheimers, Ozone Suppositories, Frog Poison & More With Crazy Mad Scientist, Biohacker & Inventor Ian Mitchell.
- Tony Robbins, Peter Diamandis & Ben Greenfield Reveal New Anti-Aging Biohacks & Breakthroughs in Precision Medicine You’ve Never Heard Of Before.
- The New Darlings Of The Anti-Aging Industry & The Russian’s Secret Age Reversal Weapon: Peptide Bioregulators With Phil Micans.
- Ben Greenfield Interviews Dr. David Sinclair About Lifespan: Why We Age―and Why We Don’t Have To.
- A Step-By-Step Blueprint For Longevity: The Most Advanced Age Reversal Strategies Known To Humankind, With Bryan Johnson.
- Biohacking Alzheimer’s, Age Reversal, Young Blood, Stem Cells, Exosomes & More!
- 12 Easy & Practical Ways To Upgrade Your Body & Brain (Ben Greenfield’s Live Talk From NextHealth In LA!)
– Books:
– Other Resources:
- KetoneAid (code BEN auto-applied for free shipping up to $20)
- Kin Euphorics
- Ozonated Oil Suppositories (use code BEN15 for 15% off)
- International Antiaging Systems (use code BGF15 to save 15%)
- NR
- NMN
- NAD Regen
- Intranasal NAD
- High-Dose Melatonin
- Kion Sleep
- Caffeine
- Taurine
- Ketone
- Hard Ketones
- NuCalm
- Cold Therapy
- Sauna
- HBOT
- Ultimate Longevity Earthing and Grounding
- Blueprint
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Do you have questions, thoughts, or feedback for Darshan Shah or me? Leave your comments below and one of us will reply!
Hi Ben, love your podcasts. I have a couple questions:
– You talk a lot about ombilical & placenta stem cells. As a parent who was lucky enough to have a doula who told us about the benefits of consuming my placenta (we are the only mammal that doesn’t) and to refrain from cutting the ombilical cord too early so that most of the stem cells make it to the mother’s body where they belong, I’m often wondering about the ethical/moral aspect in the business of stem cells. Are the parents told that the cord/placenta are going to be sold by the hospital for a profit? That they contain healthy stem cells that would be frozen and benefit their family? Or are they simply stolen from them while they are conveniently maintained uninformed? Per my understanding, there is no transparency in this business, and I strongly feel that it’s an important ethical conversation to open to the public.
– You often mention books you give you sons to read. As an Unschooling mom of a boy who seems to have a similar age as yours (15), I would love it if you shared a list of the books you’ve felt have been influential reads for them and that the’ve responded to with passion and/or enthusiasm.
Thanks!
Clara B
My Unschooling documentary: www.beingandbecomingfilm.com
Oops, I meant until they make it to the newborn baby’s body, to whom they belong. I just had diner with my doula extraordinaire, who remind me of the details: About 5 minutes before cutting the ombilical cord, or simply wait until the cord stops pulsating – at which point it become white. This stem cells rich blood allows the baby’s brain as well as all the other vital organs to develop optimally.
Some people choose to wait longer to cut it (which can go as far as 7 days in the case of Lotus Births), but she said it’s not really necessary.